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Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by manigandham »

amelius wrote: post #363
slg wrote: post #278

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One of the biggest flaws of the tech industry is the belief that being a tech expert is enough to disrupt other industries in which they don't have any expertise. Sometimes they get lucky and it works despite something like Uber's or Airbnb's total ignorance of the law. Sometimes it fails like with numerous cryptocurrency companies relearning why the finance industry has so many dang regulations. Seems like Soylent i…

> One of the biggest flaws of the tech industry is the belief that being a tech expert is enough to disrupt other industries in which they don't have any expertise. One of the biggest flaws of consumers is that they can't tell low tech from high tech. Writing a shiny CRUD website is not high tech.

There is no such thing as high or low tech. Technology is applied science, knowledge, methods and strategies to accomplish a goal. That's all.

Focus on the goal and outcome, not the process to get there. And definitely don't "judge" it based on whether it is "high tech" or not.

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Post by maxerickson »

fintechie wrote: post #365
tomp wrote: post #344

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But does that change the nutritional value of garlic (as opposed to changing just the taste)?

If you lose allicin you lose some nice properties (antimicrobial, antiinflammatory, etc): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

How does rushing it into an acid bath preserve it?

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Post by manigandham »

omnimus wrote: post #321
adamlett wrote: post #305

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Not quite. It's not that there must be a law for everything , it's that there are laws for many things , and often for good reasons. It's not that we always need to regulate new things because new means risky. It's that many new things are actually old things in new guises, and we already know (or should know) what to be concerned about.

Paradox is that US still has no regulations concerning digital privacy, big data and user protection.

The internet moves fast, progress is being made.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/10/27...

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by TillE »

rubber_duck wrote: post #503
AimHere wrote: post #494

Well actual food value was only a secondary feature of Soylent's product anyways, as witnessed by customers still happily supporting a food company that makes tasteless gunk that makes people ill. The primary selling point was that it allowed the customers to pretend (at least to themselves, if not to anyone else) that they were too busy even to eat food. If you're THAT busy, you must be an important, happening guy,…

I don't use soylent, but I eat something similar (whey + powdered oats + flavoring + milk). I don't know how to cook well, preparing food and cleaning afterwards is a pure waste of time. Buying this stuff in bulk (for like 2-3 months in one order) lets me mix up a batch that lasts me whole week in one day, lets me accurately track my macros and helps me with having eating discipline (I tend to get overweight if I jus…

Joylent and Queal (and others) seem far less weird because they're basically thin instant oatmeal with a multivitamin. It even has real fruit! Fewer weird ingredients, and a fairly nice flavor.

It is extremely strange that Soylent has never attempted flavoring. That's a good way of keeping it a niche product for nerds.

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Post by manigandham »

JanezStupar wrote: post #330
Quarrelsome wrote: post #307

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no, law is social contract between peers, not slave=>master.

A contract you had no participation in drafting and never signed, yet you are compelled at gunpoint to uphold it. Nice spin tho.

... you can change laws, we have processes for it. You can also move to a more viable environment for your needs.

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Post by bitJericho »

errow wrote: post #473
slg wrote: post #278

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One of the biggest flaws of the tech industry is the belief that being a tech expert is enough to disrupt other industries in which they don't have any expertise. Sometimes they get lucky and it works despite something like Uber's or Airbnb's total ignorance of the law. Sometimes it fails like with numerous cryptocurrency companies relearning why the finance industry has so many dang regulations. Seems like Soylent i…

And then there are the real elephants in the room - YouTube and Facebook. Basically saying well our platforms allow for infinite content sure, but we can't police all that. Sorry! These are actual arguments made in court. And then behind the scenes they are running around scared shitless trying to police content - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-content-insight-i... The whole thing reminds me of Samuel L J…

YouTube is the leader in protecting digital content.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-GTAVsMqa-U

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Post by mcv »

NumberCruncher wrote: post #369
akvadrako wrote: post #351

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Those are not nutritionally complete, fruits go bad and most people don't live next to an open bakery.

Not all of your meals has to be "nutritionally complete". You can store apples during the whole winter if you have below 0 degrees outside. We did it when I was young. Quality of life does not starts with a 6 digit salary and ends with working on the next Uber for X. Living in the right country/city with the right people can case you a lot of happiness. I know because I was born behind the iron curtain.

> Not all of your meals has to be "nutritionally complete".

But is that really a reason to argue against nutritionally complete meals? Healthy is still better than unhealthy. I suppose the choice becomes healthy or tasty at some point.

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Post by mcv »

DanBC wrote: post #357
Matachines wrote: post #85

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Every time Soylent is on HN people say this. Why don't people understand? It's so simple: Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need. It's not a) the ONLY food you can eat or b) supposed to replace all meals. I order a box of Soylent bottles every few weeks—they come in handy while working or for a quick breakfast or if I have little time and am hungry. I also cook meals with my girlfriend a few times a week…

> Why don't people understand? > It's not [...] b) supposed to replace all meals. That's not how it was advertised during launch and the kickstarter. It was heavily pushed as a sole source of nutrition. People are only repeating what Soylent said.

I think the point was that it could, but doesn't have to, replace all meals.
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