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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by return0 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Microsoft is a software company , so i would guess their end game is not services or hardware but software. Anyone got any ideas how they plan to dominate the software world and make money out of it? They 've just gained a ton of new fans though, that's for sure.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by thomasz »

veidr wrote: post #400
mreiland wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He directly referenced Linux which is famously under GPLv2. You can argue with this wording if you like, but his observation is spot on and it's obvious to those are not unduly biased that he was speaking about the GPL and the licenses that were similar to it.

What I think is " obvious to those who are not unduly biased " is that he was cherrypicking the most extreme example (the restrictive GPL license, which is not used by most open source software[1]), and then trying to use that to spraypaint FUD over the (much) broader open source concept as a whole. "Open source is not available to commercial companies" is about as factually incorrect as any statement in the English…

That was 2001. There was no SAS loophole to exploit. If you desired to sell software, you had to ship it. In a box. The GPL was as viable for businesses back then as the AGPL is today.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by Joe4evr »

namelezz wrote: post #178

I was so excited for a moment. + Syntax coloring, bracket matching: C++, jade, PHP, Python, XML, Batch, F#, DockerFile, Coffee Script, Java, HandleBars, R, Objective-C, PowerShell, Luna, Visual Basic, Markdown + IntelliSense, linting, outline: JavaScript, JSON, HTML, CSS, LESS, SASS + Refactoring, find all references: C#, TypeScript

Keep in mind, this is only a preview, and they're working hard to get all those languages to IntelliSense/Refactoring level. And once their extensibility framework is finalized, you can add support for whatever language you want.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by fstephany »

graycat wrote: post #404
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

My take is that in the most central sense, what Nadella and Microsoft are doing with the code editor, .NET, their free IDE, etc. is following a standard, powerful, old script : If have something popular, e.g., .NET, then make it open and promote it as a standard . Then come out with enhancements every few months. Part of the script is what Ballmer once said in his uniquely understated way -- "Developers! Developers!…

Is it not what Google is currently doing with Android?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by raffapen »

Not directly connected to VS Code launch, but rather to the New Microsoft phenomenon: It is high time the MS offer a FUSE-like userspace filesystem for Windows (possibly, by purchasing Eldos). Along with package management (which is now addressed in Windows 10), this is one of the biggest holes in Windows armor.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by wernercd »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #254
EnderMB wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is touched upon a bit in this episode of .NET Rocks. http://dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=1131 What I took from it is that Microsoft used to make all their money from Windows and Office, but now the company is looking to transition towards being a service company rather than a product company. As a service-oriented company, restricting developers towards a single platform doesn't really help them, so ulti…

Great. Because what we need are more service companies.

Yeah, we do. Competition is a good thing.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by myth_buster »

rbanffy wrote: post #429
myth_buster wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quote: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. And those who can are condemned to see others repeat it. comes to mind when I see the enthusiasm in this thread. The top comment itself seems like a blind praise one would hear in a cult.

The one thing that annoys me most as I grow older (and, hopefully wiser) is the loss of this enthusiasm you mention.

I think i should have used "Excitement" instead. On your point, my enthusiasm grown with the more I learn as I see more potential that I would not have given my previous lack of knowledge.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by mreiland »

Retra wrote: post #415
mreiland wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He directly referenced Linux which is famously under GPLv2. You can argue with this wording if you like, but his observation is spot on and it's obvious to those are not unduly biased that he was speaking about the GPL and the licenses that were similar to it.

It seems to me like he was purposefully taking a hard political stance on a nuanced issue in order to drive people who are uninformed or unsure about these things into his own company's pen. It has nothing to do with linux, GPL, or any technicality, and everything to do with perceptions, executive policy, and business culture.

perhaps, but he was referring to the GPL, and this particular discussion started because one poster asked roughly "wasn't he being accurate"?

And the answer is yes.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by emodendroket »

visarga wrote: post #458
emodendroket wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notepad uses very little memory; maybe you could use that instead.

Nah. Notepad doesn't even show line numbers. How hard would that have been to display the line and column?

Yes, and while we're add it, can it really be hard to add syntax highlighting? Now let's all keep adding one small feature until we've specified a fully-featured editor.
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