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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I think that, exactly how 95% of the people that left Twitter eventually returned, we will see a similar outflux of people from Github and the vast majority of them will quietly be back in a few months.

There was nothing wrong with twitter, it was a social fad to performatively leave. Github is actually down and I can't push code right now, it's blocking my business which is unacceptable. It's a broken tool.

X’s revenue is down by 2/3 from the acquisition peak. That’s all you need to know about whether the decline was real or not.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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3P-maintained infrastructure is what makes civilizations work efficiently. We're not all digging our own wells, generating our own electricity, and burning or burying our own garbage.

You are still supposed to be prepared for outages.

Agreed. So is the issue really then that people were inadequately prepared with backup plans and now they're suffering the consequences?

It's not all that different from, say, an AWS region having a service impact. People would rather complain about AWS than prepare and utilize a well-tested recovery plan to shift to a standby region. Oftentimes there's no fallback plan because the business already considered it and decided it was too costly relative to the benefit, but when the incident happens, they still can't help but complain. Humans being humans.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Here's an article from Oct 2025:

"Microsoft’s data-center shortages to persist longer than expected - Bloomberg"

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-data-center-shor...

Perhaps relevant tho. I would imagine if they could simply throw more hardware at it they would. And I wouldn't imagine inability to throw hardware at it would be due to software scaling issues. So perhaps it is simply lack of available hardware?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Codeberg isn't a viable infrastructure alternative. Its an opinionated community not a neutral host as they will delete repos based off subjective opinions on LLM usage and resource consumption. If continued hosting is dependent on moderators deciding if a project fits whatever the current philosophy is, and the whims of the moderation team, then I cannot consider it a serious choice for infrastructure. Infrastructur…

Can you suggest a viable infrastructure alternative? My wishlist: free for open source and paid for closed source, able to do simple projects that are handwritten and also complex projects including AI LLM code that needs CI/CD/auditing, and hosting in the UK or EU. Aside, I donate money to Codeberg because I think Codeberg is a wonderful service with strong commitment to free open source, and because I host some lar…

https://tangled.org would love to have you :) We're hosted in the EU, and are free for open source, forever. Tangled is also designed to be federated from ground up, so you get to own your infra & data while still participating in an open network.

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This is starting to feel like Twitter. For a variety of reasons, we had a centralized place where everyone of a particular set of persuasions could connect, and this had outsize benefits for the community as a whole. That place is becoming untenable, and with the loss of goodwill and stability, the community’s started to dissipate. But there isn’t one obvious transition candidate, so the diaspora is finding itself sp…

"Protocols, not platforms" should have remained the philosophy of the Internet. Alas, we are here.

This is why I'm so interested in https://tangled.org/

Even if the platform itself doesn't take off, the protocol and the data ownwership (you host your repo artifacts, issues, prs, etc on your ATproto server) mean that a competitor could come in easily if you were no longer satisfied with performance, reliability, or monetization.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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The PSA is that you should always have a mirror—even if just a bare repo folks can pull from during downtime. …& this is ignoring all the moral reason for avoiding US-based, publicly-traded, proprietary software for host largely free software. They also deny access to users due to US sanctions, privacy-conscious users won’t want to create accounts/agree to ToS, & rubbing shoulders with other corpos your project can b…

Sure, but it's not just the reoo. It's PR's, code review and you've got a bunch of actions then it's difficult (not impossible) to deal with those being down.

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Boomer opinion but trusting third parties to be critical infrastructure, especially with no SLA in sight, will always end in tears. "The cloud" is very convenient, but its providers will never care about your infrastructure or your customers as much as you will.

+1 (as a millenial) ... especially given that setting up a git server for non-OSS company code isn't too much of a challenge really. also, no need to self-denigrate this reasonable opinion in preemptive obedience.

GitHub is way more than just a git repo host. It manages code reviews, merge (pull) requests, and has an entire CI/CD workflow engine in it. Replicating all that is a challenge that most orgs are not up to.

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> What's everyone else using? Self hosted Gitlab? Gitea? tangled.org!

What's your experience with tangled? Would love to hear the experience from other users as well

It's worked great for hosting my smaller personal projects so far, and I've already received a few helpful pull requests from the community.

Tangled.org really been working to ensure all their features work from data hosted on your personal data server (it's based on ATproto) which means should their performance, reliability, or monetization ever get you down it's easy to switch to a competitor since you're not locked in.

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