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Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by somenameforme »

kubb wrote: post #324
kortilla wrote: post #318

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It’s privacy vs not. It doesn’t really need special lobbying

I’m sure that isn’t the full answer. Otherwise car ads wouldn’t be necessary and more affordable cars would outcompete the expensive ones. There’s the utility component, the prestige factor and other things.

Oh man what a perfect example to be had here. So historically exactly what you're said is 100% what happened. By the time Ford really mastered manufacturing, he managed to get the price of the Model T down to $260 around 1925, about $4,600 in current terms for a premium car!

Needless to say everybody was buying one and he was rocking it. Then came along General Motors and they were desperate to find any way to compete. They couldn't compete on price or quality, so their CEO is credited with inventing planned obsolescence, and turning cars into a fashion. They'd release a new style each year alongside plentiful marketing implying that the old styles were outdated, and it was wildly successful.

So yeah, needless to say people have always genuinely wanted their own cars. But it's also true that companies have managed through advertising to create artificial demand for vehicles that don't objectively make sense. To some degree reality is catching up at least though. Aston Martin is on the verge of bankruptcy and BYD is the largest electric car company in the world, by a wide margin.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by brickers »

_heimdall wrote: post #421
beernet wrote: post #371

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That's an interesting choice as a source. It doesn't mention climate change or human impacts at all and describes El Niño as a naturally occurring event. > The El Nino is a phenomenon that occurs naturally

El Niño is a naturally occurring event

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by hylaride »

masklinn wrote: post #359
killerstorm wrote: post #312

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I don't think the pressure of the auto lobby is really the reason. People feel cars are more convenient and more prestigious than riding on a bus. Car lobby certainly accelerated the process, but car users were the main driving force.

> Car lobby certainly accelerated the process, but car users were the main driving force. Not really. We know it’s not as much of a natural force as some would like it to be because there are places where the lobbies lost, and while cars are common and widespread they’re nowhere near as dominant as they are in, say, the USA. NJB’s next video (currently available on nebula) is about exactly that, Amsterdam’s (/ De Pij…

Subsidies played a huge role, including the eminent domain bulldozing of cities for free-at-use highways. If people had to pay upfront for those costs, the urban landscape would look much different (probably closer to Japanese cities, which do have massive suburbs, but centred around train stations).

Yet Japan does still have cars (and a car culture even), they're just not necessarily the default or dominant mode of transport.

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Post by simonw »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #463
simonw wrote: post #393

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Things I learned from this: - Fable will do a whole lot more than you might expect in order to verify a fix. I learned that it's "relentlessly proactive". That's a good title for a blog entry! - You can take screenshots of a window in macOS using the "screencapture" CLI command, but you'll need the integer window ID first. - That windowID is accessible via "Quartz.CGWindowListCopyWindowInfo(Quartz.kCGWindowListOption…

Are you using Claude Code or a different agent? I'm curious how screenshots are being fed back into the model? Does CC register a tool for this, or is Fable just using a bash tool to perform the screen capture, and then what tool is it using to request the resulting image to be fed back to it?

I was using the Claude Code CLI harness. It can "read" any image file on disk, so all it needs is a way to create a file in one of the standard formats supported by the Anthropic API.

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Post by fg137 »

bschwindHN wrote: post #43
megous wrote: post #4

Isn't that something you just open a devtools for and have fixed in like 2 minutes? For me, it got frustrated debugging on a real LPDDR4 controller/phy and having me in the loop slowing it down, so it wrote an HW emulator to be able to run the original LPDDR4 training aarch64 binary from the manufacturer, to see what register writes it was making and to compare with the opensource rewrite it was implementing. Mildly…

> Isn't that something you just open a devtools for and have fixed in like 2 minutes? Not if you're an LLM influencer! Gotta keep up with the downpour of blog links or you'll look like you're falling behind on the latest and greatest.

This.

Depending on who you are talking to, that's the wrong question to ask.

ROI is not measured in terms of actual productivity. It is measured by how many people read their article/watch their video.

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Post by fg137 »

uludag wrote: post #275
eclipticplane wrote: post #205

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$12 in tokens and the OP wasn't even at the computer. OP was working on a personal matter, arguably way more valuable than fixing a CSS scrollbar.

Here's what the $12 payed for: https://github.com/datasette/datasette-agent/commit/a75a8b72... Such a fix would have only required basic CSS knowledge and taken max 5 minutes with the HTML inspector. Paying $12 to save 5 minutes ($144/hour) is a decision that a lot of people wouldn't be comfortable making.

Their response:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48499478

I am amused by the "I am an LLM researcher, so wasting tokens to do basic things is totally justified" perspective.

I have a lot more critical views of this author, but I'll just stop here.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by simonw »

not_kurt_godel wrote: post #490
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #484

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I'm shocked they don't come with a way to run them in a sandbox. Shouldn't this be relatively easy for a $1T company to set up? Isn't this trivial compared to the entire harness?

Doing so would be an effective admission that LLM guardrails are inherently probabilistic, unpredictable, and insecure. Plus the only truly robust sandbox approach would be clunky setup of a local VM.

That clunky VM setup is a what Claude Cowork does, which is Claude Code with extra safety features for non-programmers.

There was a big thread about that here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48479452

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