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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by nathan_compton »

tinfoilhatter wrote: post #408

> In this regard, Saint John Paul II stated that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, proclaimed by the United Nations on 10 December 1948, remains one of the highest expressions of the human conscience of our time. Interesting, considering that the U.N. has its roots established in the ideology of Luciferians. [1][2][3] Surely the Pope and the Vatican are both aware of this fact. [1] https://archive.is/D27Jr […

Who cares? It isn't like bad people can't have good ideas and vice versa. From where I'm sitting Luciferians, Theosophists, etc are just as suspect as Catholics because they believe in imaginary stuff.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by xandrius »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #376
komali2 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What specific horrible evils do you mean? And how do you attribute them to, specifically, organizing an economy along communistic lines? I ask because if we can take a country with a communist economy, or striving for one, and blame all its evils on communism itself, I have a few things I'd like to point out as being the horrors of capitalism: 1. Atlantic slave trade - millions dead (many on the ships), millions ensl…

The specific evil in my mind was the Great Leap Forward, but there are dozens we could draw from history. And I attribute them to communism because that's literally how history attributes them, though obviously pro-Communism thinkers would disagree.

Dozens means over 24 or more. Could you also provide a non-exhaustive list of such ills to be compared against the ones mentioned above?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by urbnspacecowboy »

idiotsecant wrote: post #483
vintagedave wrote: post #10

> a uniformity that eliminated diversity and that chose homogenization over communion Unrelated to AI, but a wonderful support of the breadth of humanity in this anti-DEI time. > We must, then, avoid the “Babel syndrome,” namely the idolatry of profit that sacrifices the weak, a uniformity that neutralizes differences, and the pretense that a single language — even a digital one — can translate everything, including…

We should just stop using the term DEI. It has been demonized in the common parlance so successfully that to a ton of people it no longer means 'people who are different are made valuable by that difference'- it's been demonized into essentially meaning 'give black people and women jobs they don't deserve'. It's a prime example of propaganda through language pollution. For whatever reason HN has been slowly goose ste…

> We should just stop using the term DEI. It has been demonized in the common parlance...

We should just stop using the term woke. It has been demonized in the common parlance...

We should just stop using the term social justice. It has been demonized in the common parlance...

We should just stop using the term critical race theory. It has been demonized in the common parlance...

We should just stop using the term diversity. It has been demonized in the common parlance...

And on and on and on. Why should we stop using terms because bigots demonize them "in the common parlance"? Bigots demonize every term.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by squidbeak »

pj_mukh wrote: post #405
squidbeak wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There aren't any profits with full automation - but there is instead total power for whoever owns that automation.

If it’s a monopoly yes. But there are massive profits in full automation. I’m not expecting costs to go to zero but it’s the only pathway to things getting cheaper by a lot.

Where are these profits coming from? Remember, under full automation there aren't any workers earning salaries.

Meanwhile, costs of production fall to zero. So what will there be for these profitable companies to spend their profits on?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by anjel »

vintagedave wrote: post #10

> a uniformity that eliminated diversity and that chose homogenization over communion Unrelated to AI, but a wonderful support of the breadth of humanity in this anti-DEI time. > We must, then, avoid the “Babel syndrome,” namely the idolatry of profit that sacrifices the weak, a uniformity that neutralizes differences, and the pretense that a single language — even a digital one — can translate everything, including…

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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by cracadumi »

netfortius wrote: post #97
cracadumi wrote: post #64

I didn't see an EPUB, so I made one from the Vatican HTML: TOC + footnotes, passes epubcheck. https://github.com/n2ctech/magnifica-humanitas-epub/releases...

Thank you for this. Is your python script in any way English language bound, or could it still be applied to other languages (e.g. the French version, with all of its diacritics), of course with the appropriate (sub/full)titles, path, etc. necessary minor modifications considered?

Not intrinsically English-bound; the first version had English metadata/anchor assumptions. I just made it language-configured and added --lang fr. It preserves Unicode/diacritics and builds the French Vatican page too.

v1.1 has both EN/FR EPUBs.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

46493168 wrote: post #275
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I believe the Amish figured this out over a century ago. The Amish rather came to a different conclusion (which I don't want to judge on, but on which I nevertheless have a different opinion than the Amish).

What is that conclusion which differs from the post you replied to? The Amish are mindful about their technology adoption.

> The Amish are mindful about their technology adoption.

The central idea concerning the Amish's relationship to technology is that only technology is allowed if it does not destroy their community.

My personal values are much less based on upholding a community, but rather are much more rooted in individual freedom and independence. This means that I (likely) come to very different conclusions regarding this class of problems than the Amish do:

For example, I am less opposed to various kinds of technology that Amish would likely consider as as "community-destroying".

On the other hand, I guess I am much more opposed to technology that can be used to surveil the user and/or makes the user dependent on the whims of big tech companies than I guess the Amish are (i.e. the Amish would likely consider this as a much smaller problem concerning which technology to allow vs disallow; as I wrote: by my understanding their central concern is which consequences some technology has for keeping their community together).

To give evidence for the previous point: (by my impression - I am not US-American) you will rather not find many Amish people at political rallys against surveillance laws. The people who attend such rallys typically also have strong opinions on which technology to use or not to use (just talk to such people who are very strongly opinionated :-) ), but - as I pointed out - these technology choices come from very different basic premises than those of the Amish.

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Post by mullingitover »

idiotsecant wrote: post #483
vintagedave wrote: post #10

> a uniformity that eliminated diversity and that chose homogenization over communion Unrelated to AI, but a wonderful support of the breadth of humanity in this anti-DEI time. > We must, then, avoid the “Babel syndrome,” namely the idolatry of profit that sacrifices the weak, a uniformity that neutralizes differences, and the pretense that a single language — even a digital one — can translate everything, including…

We should just stop using the term DEI. It has been demonized in the common parlance so successfully that to a ton of people it no longer means 'people who are different are made valuable by that difference'- it's been demonized into essentially meaning 'give black people and women jobs they don't deserve'. It's a prime example of propaganda through language pollution. For whatever reason HN has been slowly goose ste…

> We should just stop using the term DEI. It has been demonized in the common parlance so successfully

Whatever term you pick to describe a concerted effort to overcome the tendency to bigotry, they'll just hijack that, too.

There's a whole industry built around this, and the media is so receptive to the right-wing that they'll openly describe how they'll do it[1], will execute the plans in public, and the mainstream media will act as their stenographers.

[1] https://xcancel.com/sykescharlie/status/1396844806547050499

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by mulr00ney »

rectang wrote: post #406
mulr00ney wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Engineers versus "engineers". I have fond memories of a boss who was an actual, licensed engineer while the rest of us were very much normal software devs. Boss was pretty chill except when someone someone suggested we should be called "engineers" rather than "developers", at which point they said "if you guys were building bridges, people would be dead." (I don't think all software needs to be built to rigorous engi…

I prefer the term "software developer" and that's what I use when I don't need the prestige of the term "software engineer". It's disadvantageous for organizations to do that with actual job titles, though. Absent US government intervention to codify the term "engineer", probably the only way out of the "engineer" trap is through further title inflation, where the developers all become "vice presidents". :)

Yeah, it's 100% the better term. We've got rules against using engineer here in Canada though several companies I've worked for have called me an engineer. Apparently Professional Engineers Ontario sometimes goes after people for calling themselves engineers but I've never heard of it actually happening, and I don't know that they have any real teeth given that the places I worked that called me an engineer were Canadian-owned. (In fact, the only place where they checked if I could use the title was the one multi-national. Go figure.)
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