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As used here "UFO-crazy" wasn't a supposition, it was a constraint. "UFO-crazy uncles" are known to exist. This is not an extraordinary claim. The existence of such uncles provides no evidence for or against extraterrestrial visitors or other aerial phenomena.
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#502Several of these look like balloons and birds. Two of them have already leaked before. Both of those are missiles being viewed with an infrared camera. One of them shows a missile passing through the field of view rapidly with a motion blur streak behind it. The other shows a missile performing maneuvers and a camera artifact showing a star-like diffraction+aperture artifact around the bright IR light source. None of…
What kind of birds are cold in black-hot imagery? What sort of missiles don't have an exhaust but a "ghost shell" trailing behind? What sort of balloons show up as contrast instead of neutral? Your comment is all certainty, and the thread has rewarded that. People are seeking definite answers - seems proportional to the uncertainty they sense. Do you really feel qualified to provide that? Seems a big responsibility t…
If I am presented with two options, I am going to defer to the more likely option, particularly when aliens are involved.
Is it more likely that you don’t understand artifacts in digital imaging of visible light or the infrared spectrum; or that it’s aliens?
When “aliens did it” is one of the possible options, skeptical people will never assume it’s aliens, given there is no evidence of aliens visiting Earth. If we had evidence of aliens visiting Earth, I would maybe consider that option.
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#503Several of these look like balloons and birds. Two of them have already leaked before. Both of those are missiles being viewed with an infrared camera. One of them shows a missile passing through the field of view rapidly with a motion blur streak behind it. The other shows a missile performing maneuvers and a camera artifact showing a star-like diffraction+aperture artifact around the bright IR light source. None of…
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The shared causal structure is the absence of facts and denial of science. Nearly every religion on earth also suffers from that in their gospel, where many fictitious and supernatural phenomena are bundled together and sold for truth.
There is nothing anti-science about the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence. In fact its apparent absence is has a name -- it's called the Fermi Paradox. And the facts are just ... released. It's the interpretation of the observations that are disputed. And unless you think they are all fake, the explanations that do not involve alien tech are non-trivial to say the least. I'm not sure why you'd think there is any…
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Lol "deep lore" - what are you really some sort of priest on this topic? Ok, priest, what is your read of the bigger picture - not the narrow DoW released videos, but the larger context. Re the counterpost - i admit it's a good effort to match the graphics - but it still looks markedly different. Thermal overexposure seems less likely given paucity of other examples - what about active jamming? IR laser pointing? Hun…
It was just a joke. You linked a thread about one particular camera artifact but missed the fact that there was another thread about this specific case. I've read all of those threads. There's not really much ambiguity here regarding these factors now: - it's a small bright infrared light source attached to a parachute - the star shape is a camera artifact
My hope was you'd be actually interested to discuss in depth - but seems like you want to end the conversation here. That's okay, no worries. Just a little disappointing and surprising (or maybe not - 100% certainty is not exactly compatible with "willing to update beliefs" ;)).
If you are another is open tho - take a look at this: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2052769793321975945
How that 8-pointed thing moves around and the cold trail it leaves. What could it be?
I don't see the intense source artifact angle because the pattern is distinct from examples of the class.
I'm unconvinced here but curious :)
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Could you find some videos for those cases? Would be interesting to see this in action.
Convenient and good infrared video for all these scenarios is hard to come by but would be useful. I think if the DoD was willing to put some money into the budget for practical recreations of UAP scenarios that they then make public, they could do a lot of good. But there'd probably be pushback about wasting money and also risks of leaking information about military sensor capabilities. But here is a paper showing p…
https://x.com/The_Astral_/status/2052922220486205496
Please tell me your feelings on the big picture. I feel it's imbalanced if you provide such certainty to some examples but refrain from a larger perspective. It's okay if you don't want to tho, I just want to know where you're coming from I guess.
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#507So with The War having ground to an unsatisfactory halt, they're now releasing distraction #2. I wonder how many will be needed between now and November? Convince me I'm wrong.
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Yes, and how did this originally become a topic of interest?
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If a “category of claims” has shared causal structure, then the category’s track record absolutely does tell you something about the next claim in it. It’s not arbitrary. Alien UFOs, Chem-Trails, and Flat Earth are obviously all generated from the same distribution of bullshit: ambiguous or misunderstood phenomena explained by positing a vast hidden conspiracy.
Every person on Earth could agree that Earth is flat and it wouldn't affect the reality of whether or not extraterrestrials visit earth even a little bit.
Similarly the absence of a conspiracy of freemasons running something does not inhibit the existence of a conspiracy of Taylor Swift fans running it in any possible way. But I think any objective assessment of whether the Swiftie conspiracy is likely to be real or not should probably take into account the possibility people positing Swiftie conspiracies have been influenced more by well established tropes about freemasons and Jews, and if the alternate hypothesis that a common human failure mode involves positing the idea groups they distrust secretly conspire to achieve unrelated outcome they dislike is well supported and the claim of an actual Swiftie conspiracy isn't...
The only thing that cuts against this is that if I was an intelligent extraterrestrial wishing to remain secret at a time of widespread interest in the possibility of extraterrestrials, I'd probably actively select the sort of people that might discredit the existence of UFOs by pattern matching all sorts of rubbish to reveal myself to.
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That's very obviously not a parachute? The "star shaped" object moves relative to it akin to a reflection actually. The interesting question here is, whether that is "white hot" or "black hot" imagery. The trail the object leaves is white . If it was a flare, that would mean white is hot. Then the object would be cold . You cannot have a "camera artefact" from a cold spot in the sky .
I think it is very likely a parachute. It moves in a swinging relation to the heat source because the heat source is hanging from it. It doesn’t exhibit reflection across the center of frame like you’d expect from a lens flare, and you can see frames in the video when the partially IR-translucent parachute overlaps itself showing that it’s a physical material moving around and which IR light can partially pass throug…
Military aircraft IR systems don't have lenses, so there is no lens flare. The bloom pattern of the "star object" also tells you as much. That's an IR laser aimed at the FLIR pod.
When you concur this is BH, the trail being white means it is below the detection range. That's usually -60°C for the sky. When that trail "cools rapidly", that would mean it had to radiate strongly, which would obviously be visible here. It's also very unusual for such a "smoke trail" to cool below ambient temperatures (that sky, which isn't white).
That trail also obviously tracks the movement of the object. Which should tell you, it cannot possibly be "a flare". The most likely explanation is an infra-red laser aimed at the FLIR pod, screening the actual vehicle responsible.
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What are they distracting us from?
I think the idea is to distract from the Epstein Files. Or maybe it's the Iran "excursion". Or the gerrymandering...
But hey! ALIENS!!