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Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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"now more kids than ever are on social media." is not an opinion, it's a statement of fact, which should be accompanied by a source, at least if you want to be taken seriously.

It's his opinion based on observing his social group. Should be clear from context.

Not sure how, but if the case it's not clear to me, at least.

Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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it's common that countries borrow legislation from other countries, even down to the wording I don't know what makes this more "coordinated" (so there is some supra-national organization coordinating this between nations? starting to sound like the Utopia show) than other legislation that trends very quickly Anyway, as a parent I 100% support it. I really don't care whether people think it's because of the kids or no…

Thanks for ruining the world for everybody and supporting mass surveillance just because you suck at parenting.

You’re welcome!

Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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Is it though? Do you actually live in the UK? Do you want to know how often it happens in London?

I live in the UK, though not in London. I can count on one hand the number of times a group of children asked me to buy alcohol for them. So it's not that it doesn't happen, but it almost never happens. Compare standing outside a supermarket, repeatedly begging passers by to commit a crime for you every time you want alcohol, with the one time action of installing a VPN client on your device and it's obvious one law…

What? - I live in London, if you walk through a high street where there is both a secondary school and a corner store (if you say you don't know what that is, I will assume you are Trump) at around 3-4pm - you either get asked to buy cigarettes; or, refusing to do so you will get asked if you have any cigarettes. Without fail.

You are trying to make it dramatic by saying it is a crime - in this context installing a VPN is as much a crime (arguably with more traces / evidence) as buying cigarettes for teenagers.

Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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I live in the UK, though not in London. I can count on one hand the number of times a group of children asked me to buy alcohol for them. So it's not that it doesn't happen, but it almost never happens. Compare standing outside a supermarket, repeatedly begging passers by to commit a crime for you every time you want alcohol, with the one time action of installing a VPN client on your device and it's obvious one law…

What? - I live in London, if you walk through a high street where there is both a secondary school and a corner store (if you say you don't know what that is, I will assume you are Trump) at around 3-4pm - you either get asked to buy cigarettes; or, refusing to do so you will get asked if you have any cigarettes. Without fail. You are trying to make it dramatic by saying it is a crime - in this context installing a V…

>and a corner store

You mean corner shop. We usually say shop in the UK. When you said you live in London, I didn't realise you meant London, Kentucky.

>You are trying to make it dramatic by saying it is a crime

It is literally a crime. https://www.gov.uk/alcohol-young-people-law

>installing a VPN is as much a crime

It is not. There is no law against circumventing age gates by means of a VPN. It is illegal to promote VPN services to children as a means of circumventing age gates, but the act itself is not illegal.

Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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The issue is not the age you come online, it's what happens when you do. Delaying from 13 (COPPA) to 16 won't change a thing. When I was a kid, I was obsessed with Home Alone -- I thought if I had one of those talkboys, I could get some changes made. But in an age where every teen has a recording device in their pocket, I continue to see the kinds of stories that made my blood boil... because when it came time to get…

> Delaying from 13 (COPPA) to 16 won't change a thing. There’s been a decent amount of studies to suggest it can actually, since you’ll be pushing the uptake of social media outside the peak age range where things like bullying, body image issues, grooming, etc. start to happen and, therefore, limiting the harm. It’s also a time when a lot of life-habits start to get set down since 12-13 is when kids start having to…

>There’s been a decent amount of studies to suggest it can actually

Then cite them

Re: Norway set to become latest country to ban social media for under 16s

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are you for real suggesting that this is just countries that just so happen to look at eachother than then all go "wow, gotta get that age verification going" ? its blindly obvious that this is an agenda that SOMEONE is pushing EVERYWHERE, one can then speculate who that might be, or for what purpose

I am tech policy adjacent, and HN is WILDLY off base when it comes to how the average voter is thinking about tech currently. Yes, all major nations have been looking at this since Australia started with it. There’s been a build up of forces and issues for decades.

The average voter thinks what the media tells them to think. This is not a counterargument to the comment you are replying to.
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