What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…
Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#502Why is management at Anthropic trying so hard to ruin their reputation with developers? I missed the OpenClaw hype but it was something that kept me excited about my yearly subscription. It makes no sense to do one of the higher tier plans unless they are directly generating you money.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#503Earlier quoted context omitted.
A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.
Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#504Earlier quoted context omitted.
They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…
It’s pretty reasonable to say “demand is way up, quality is up, supply is constrained, and so price needs to rise”. It seems weird to segment this way though. Surely it’s better to just give Sonnet to your bottom tier, rather than cut out the entire Claide Code product entirely? Give folks a taste rather than lock the whole product behind a $100/mo plan.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#505Earlier quoted context omitted.
That tweet only makes things worse. On top of all their other nonsense recently, it actually convinced me to cancel my subscription. I can't trust Anthropic to manage their products in a way that supports my workflow.
I just cancelled before seeing this news. i was already pissed about constantly hitting limits on the 20 a month plan and looking for alternatives and this seals the deal. Bye bye!
With Sonnet it's a bit better, but I can get the same performance with GPT-5.4.
Now I'm pretty much paying the 20€ for Claude Pro so it can plan/review stuff and then I use pi.dev + GPT-5.4 for the actual work.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#506Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
Just checked. I continue to have Claude Code with my Pro plan This is concerning though. If I lose my current usage allotment at this price point I will likely switch to codex
It also forces you to keep your workflow mostly harness-independent because Claude supports next to no standards and Codex does some.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#507Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…
big fan of A/B tests that dehumanize the consumer into some kind of money making lab rat funnel whose only purpose is to be experimented on how you can extract more money out of it peak siliconbromaxxing
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#508Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…
What does it mean that they’re running a test? If you’re one of the unlucky 2% you need to pay more?
Like, they're just advertising different terms to test how many people would still click on it and very likely start the subscription process, but after they click they go back to the usual terms. Changing the whole payment flow, account models and permissions in their backend just for a quick test is usually too much work.
But yes, basically, if you're B and not A, and B has objectively worse terms than A, then you're just unlucky. But this is the essence of A/B tests. They are done by basically every company everytime, because it's the most straightforward and simple way to test new terms or designs.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#509Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few enterprise customers I know are upgrading to the higher plan now that their limits have been nuked. I imagine Anthropic is trying to see how many users they can push to higher tiers with these new squeezes. I hate to say it but I imagine it will work. It’s going to suck for me, because I had gotten used to ridiculously cheap tokens, but I guess the era of subsidized tokens is over.
Most real businesses are on API billing, not Max.