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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 10:57 PM UTC

Hikikomori wrote: post #497

trimethylpurine wrote: post #493

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Ali Shamkhani, just based on his Wikipedia page, openly stated on several occasions that he intended to build nukes and that he regretted not building them and nuking Israel and the US in the 90s. He was also a high ranking military leader in Iran, which implies that he commanded, or maybe organized, but at the very least funded terror in Gaza, Israel, the US, Australia, France, etc. I don't see that as a negotiator…

You'd be surprised if you knew what many American leaders and generals thought about using nukes. Whatever you say is besides the point, there's plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around on both sides. Israel kills negotiators during an active negotiation. They have no interest in solving this other than Iran becoming a failed state. They are manufacturing this situation, its been the goal of Netanyahu for 4 de…

But they found enriched uranium in this case. Regardless, it makes sense to disempower a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time.

That's not happened when we talk about "plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around." Not the US and not Israel.

It seems the goal (and Khameini stated this not just once but it's literally the stated primary goal of the Islamic Republic) is to bait other countries into war and use the media to blame them for war crimes generating support for the Islamic Revolution.

And that seems to be exactly what they've succeeded in doing here with your commentary. Here you are critical of the US.

If there is plenty to go around then why pick the side that promotes revolution and mutilation and opposes civil rights?

Export revolution is not the stated goal of the US. Whether it happens or not is irrelevant. It shouldn't be considered a good thing, right? One of these countries thinks it should be and that's worse.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by Hikikomori » Sun, Mar 29, 2026, 3:43 PM UTC

trimethylpurine wrote: post #501

Hikikomori wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be surprised if you knew what many American leaders and generals thought about using nukes. Whatever you say is besides the point, there's plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around on both sides. Israel kills negotiators during an active negotiation. They have no interest in solving this other than Iran becoming a failed state. They are manufacturing this situation, its been the goal of Netanyahu for 4 de…

But they found enriched uranium in this case. Regardless, it makes sense to disempower a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time. That's not happened when we talk about "plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around." Not the US and not Israel. It seems the goal (and Khameini stated this not just once but it's literally the stated primary goal of the…

US and Israel has done plenty of warcrimes, though they cannot be prosecuted.

>a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time.

Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas etc.

Laughable that you think that Iran can control western media.

I've been critical of the US for much longer than after oct 7. All the wars since WW2, overthrowing of governments, support of dictators, ignoring genocides for profit, all for US imperialism and weapon sales.

There is not a country that has caused more global suffering post WW2.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:50 AM UTC

Hikikomori wrote: post #502

trimethylpurine wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they found enriched uranium in this case. Regardless, it makes sense to disempower a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time. That's not happened when we talk about "plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around." Not the US and not Israel. It seems the goal (and Khameini stated this not just once but it's literally the stated primary goal of the…

US and Israel has done plenty of warcrimes, though they cannot be prosecuted. >a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time. Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas etc. Laughable that you think that Iran can control western media. I've been critical of the US for much longer than after oct 7. All the wars since WW2, overthrowing of governmen…

I prefer that they die in the name of civil rights, over us dying in the name of taking them away from people.

Let them violently export Islamic Revolution or don't. Those are our options.

I choose don't. I prefer civil rights.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 6:40 AM UTC

Hikikomori wrote: post #502

trimethylpurine wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they found enriched uranium in this case. Regardless, it makes sense to disempower a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time. That's not happened when we talk about "plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around." Not the US and not Israel. It seems the goal (and Khameini stated this not just once but it's literally the stated primary goal of the…

US and Israel has done plenty of warcrimes, though they cannot be prosecuted. >a regime that has been firing rockets at civilians in neighboring countries for 4 decades during peace time. Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas etc. Laughable that you think that Iran can control western media. I've been critical of the US for much longer than after oct 7. All the wars since WW2, overthrowing of governmen…

>Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas etc.

Can you name one conflict in which Israel attacked during peace time? I can't. Interested to see where you go on this.

Reporters can only publish what Hamas allows. They will be banned from visiting otherwise. There was a good article about this in the Atlantic a while back.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/ho...

So yes, they do control your media on that topic. And clearly you're eating it up.

I certainly don't find that funny. You're siding with terrorists and voting for them, unknowingly it seems. You're comparing them with people defending their homes, a complete reversal of reality. That's deeply disturbing. It's not funny at all.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by hakrgrl » Tue, Mar 31, 2026, 3:17 AM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #413

hakrgrl wrote: post #141

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Obama actually did this in 2016. https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-... > Washington CNN — The Obama administration secretly arranged a plane delivery of $400 million in cash on the same day Iran released four American prisoners and formally implemented the nuclear deal, US officials confirmed Wednesday.

Hmmm… $400M and we got a nuclear deal? We're looking at 5x that this time around (so far) and no deal in sight. Not sure this admin is doing the smart thing.

We got a nuclear deal Iran violated so badly that we had to take military action.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine » Wed, Apr 01, 2026, 3:33 PM UTC

mikkupikku wrote: post #439

trimethylpurine wrote: post #248

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But if you're getting attacked for 4 decades by another country, do you do something about it or are you saying that's also wrong? My understanding is that the regime in Iran has been terrorizing around the world for decades. It's not just disagreeable. People are seeking justice. It's one thing to dislike another politician. No one needs justice for repugnancy. But if they are committing acts of terror, that's a tot…

> My understanding is that the regime in Iran has been terrorizing around the world for decades The list of Iranian terror attacks in America amounts to a whole lot of fuck all. Whatever Iran might be doing elsewhere shouldn't be America's problem.

They are doing it in the US, so it is America's problem.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-...

And anyway, even if that weren't happening, most Americans are immigrants within two or three generations. This is a country of immigrants. A huge number of Americans have families that are affected by Islamic Republic terror attacks outside of the US. India, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, basically all of the countries in northern and eastern Africa, France, Germany, the UK.

The list of countries that haven't been attacked by terror groups funded and/or organized by Iran's Islamic Republic is pretty short.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine » Wed, Apr 01, 2026, 4:03 PM UTC

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #247

mhb wrote: post #236

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The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. These dots don't seem hard to connect.

> who are close to building nuclear weapons This is a lie. Not only is it not the stated purpose of the war, even Netanyahu himself went out of the way to say that Iran had no remaining capability to accomplish this and that was not why they were invaded. > They currently have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. The US demonstrated its missiles can reach schools in Iran. Why are we more concerned with scarem…

I'm coming all the way back to this comment because it points out how misinformed your stance is. You're referring to Iran's attacks on the US as hypothetical, but they aren't. For 4 decades Iran has attacked Americans including the intentional targeting of civilians.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-...