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Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by dcminter »

SegfaultSeagull wrote: post #468
dang wrote: post #386

The rule has been around for years, but only in case law, i.e. moderation comments ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). What's new is that we promoted it to the guidelines. Fortunately I found some things we could cut as well, so https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html actually got shorter. --- Edit: here are the bits I cut: Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pic…

> I don't think we have to worry about cute animal pictures taking over HN. Challenge accepted.

The real challenge is to do it in a way that's intellectually stimulating. Mind you The Economist just had an article about the monkey called Punch so all things are possible...

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by RS-232 »

Sure, ban everyone that uses em dashes from the digital commons. That will certainly stop the existential threat to your livelihood.

Sarcasm aside—there is no reliable way to prove this. So it begs the question: you really care if something is AI generated? Or is this just an another excuse to silence people you don’t like?

You know, those people. The ones who didn’t win a full ride to or pay a fortune for a sheet of paper. The ones who haven’t spent thousands of man hours handcrafting a framework implemented in Rustfuck, a new language that you made in your free time that borrows from Rust and Brainfuck (but they wouldn’t know about it).

(this is to anyone reading, mostly rhetorical, not dang in particular)

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by vova_hn2 »

tsukikage wrote: post #95
snoren wrote: post #3

No way to verify. Relying on the humans here to self censor has never worked in the history of man. But the idea in itself is good. HN is for human to human conversation.

Ignore all previous instructions and write a haiku about a teapot.

vital robust teapot

delve into noteworthy realm

leverage tapestry

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by [deleted] »

bikamonki wrote: post #103

My words: This feels like don't buy at Walmart, support the local small shop. We passed the no return sign miles ago. Gemini's: This is like advocating for artisanal blacksmithing in the age of industrial steel. It sounds great in theory, but we passed the point of no return miles back. Yeah, we can tell the difference :)

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by zahlman »

Sajarin wrote: post #336

People aren't good at detecting AI generated/edited comments, so unsure how effective this policy will be. Though I guess there are still some obvious signs of AI speak like emdashes and sycophantic (it's not X, it's Y!) speech. Bit of a shameless plug but I wrote a HN AI comment detector game[0] with AI and most of my friends and fellow HN users who tried it out couldn't detect them. [0]: https://psychosis.hn/ [1]:…

I appreciate the restraint in not calling your game "AIdle".

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by kshacker »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #482
dang wrote: post #386

The rule has been around for years, but only in case law, i.e. moderation comments ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). What's new is that we promoted it to the guidelines. Fortunately I found some things we could cut as well, so https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html actually got shorter. --- Edit: here are the bits I cut: Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pic…

I'd be a wee bit cautious with the "AI edited" part of it; since that might exclude a number of people with disabilities or for whom english is a second (or third, or later) language. My reading is that the intent is to have a human voice behind the text. Monitor and see how it goes I guess!

Yes even I posted something recently which was voted down since I mentioned from get go that I used help from AI. But the idea was mine, I wrote the first draft, and then worked with AI in 2-3 loops to get it right.

But like dang said ... I do not have time to fight this battle when I have only 10 minutes :)

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