Excellent! Was going to get a MacMini for my kids but I might just get this instead.
MacBook Neo
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Re: MacBook Neo
#502Holy shit thats a good deal
Re: MacBook Neo
#503Wow thats a really good deal
Re: MacBook Neo
#504This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…
I think the 2 laptops you mentioned are targeting different markets. The Surface Laptop you linked to is - 16GB of RAM and 512GB of Storage (no 8GB of RAM option) The $599 Mac Neo is 8GB of RAM and 256GB of Storage. It doesn't have a 16GB RAM option but a 512GB storage option is $699. 8GB RAM seems to me to be targeting folks who don't run a lot of local apps or multiple big apps
MacOS is crazy efficient and can overcommit quite a lot.
I used an M1 Pro for a couple years to work. 8GB of ram but routinely using 12GB including swap.
Now, I couldn’t keep slack and outlook open so there were limitations but I was able to work. People are underestimating the usefulness of 8GB of RAM.
I guess it is also worth saying that I do my work by connecting to a remote server where I do the actual development and everything else. The Mac itself being a web browser and ssh machine
Re: MacBook Neo
#505If this makes people develop stuff under the assumption that the user only has 8 GB of memory, I am happy for where we are going :-)
This is the first release. They test the market and optimize. BTW, I have an old M1 with 8gb and works well for some kind of [light?] development. Not using xcode but vscode.
Re: MacBook Neo
#506Press release touts "built with the environment mind", but is silent on repairability. Also this week: Lenovo's new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability showing that even popular modules of mainstream manufacturers can build with repairability in mind. https://www.ifixit.com/News/115827/new-thinkpads-score-perfe... Apple I imagine is still soldering their storage and memory to the motherboard.
That's the tradeoff with making something small and light. I don't have a big problem with it.
Re: MacBook Neo
#507Everyone seems so focussed on the price and the RAM that noone is talking about the fact that macOS is now running on the A system chips which makes me wonder how far away from an iPad that can swap between iOS and macOS when you dock it in the keyboard are we...
It's a shame it isn't the A19 series with MIE.
Re: MacBook Neo
#508First thing I did was search the page for "touch" as in touch screen. Still no touch screen. I've gotten so used to a touch screen with my X1 yoga that every time I use my Mac for work I get pissed off at it because I can't touch it. Just simple things like scrolling or multiple check boxes etc
The finger prints would drive me crazy.
Re: MacBook Neo
#509This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…
Doesn't the surface have a touch screen? I don't really see how it's a competitor if it doesn't have a touch screen.
In the year that I had a Surface, I can count on 2 hands the number of times that I used the touch screen. Out of all those times that I used touch screen functionality, the majority of the times were done inadvertently when I was trying to get something off the screen. I'm willing to bet a lot of people won't/don't care about the touch screen, they just want something cheap.
Re: MacBook Neo
#510Run a Linux VM (basically no performance impact) and you have a killer quality Linux laptop. Sure it’s not the same as a dedicated Linux system but with these specs you’re going to do lighter work away from your desk anyway. Or perhaps this will be the perfect machine for the Asahi team to focus on…lots of demand at this price point, and a lean Linux install would make this machine fly.
Why would you spin up a linux vm for development when you are already running a unix os?