Ted Kaczynski was right about technology
We Will Not Be Divided
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#502The levels of irony in this case are staggering.
The employees of these companies are complicit in creating the greatest data harvesting and manipulation machine ever built, whose use cases have yet to be fully realized, yet when the government wants to use it for what governments do best—which was reasonable to expect given the corporate-government symbiosis we've been living in for decades—then it's a step too far?
Give me a fucking break. Stop the performative outrage, and go enjoy the fruits of your labor like the rest of the elites you're destroying the world with.
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#503Earlier quoted context omitted.
Symmetry is not guaranteed. If someone creates a deadly pathogen with a long pre-symptomatic period (which we know is possible, since HIV works this way) it could infect essentially everyone before discovery. Yes, powerful AI would likely rapidly speed up the process of responding to the threat after detection, especially in designing countermeasures, but if we don't learn about the threat in time we lose. There are…
For every person that thinks about creating the HIV-like deadly pathogen, there will be millions more thinking about how to defend people against such pathogen, how to detect it faster before symptoms arise, how to put up barriers to creating them, and possibly even how to modify our bodies to be naturally resilient to all similar pathogens. Just like what you're doing here. I don't think we should mark knowledge or…
We were woefully under prepared for COVID despite many people predicting that very event. At the very least, we should have had stockpiles of PPE from the beginning.
It's not enough for a handful of people to predict something. You have to get the entire nation onboard to defend against it.
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#504Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft, Azure, AWS, Nvidia and IBM all have deals with other providers for AI. That itself doesn't turn the needle.
I think the point is that would be catastrophic for Anthropic.
Who cares about Anthropic? That's the guys who are pushing for regulations to prevent people from using local models. The earlier they are gone the better
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That's always been the loophole. But it involved an extra step so they are just trying to get rid of that one annoyance. Here is an interesting thing to think about which country spies on Americans the most and how? Are there New Zealand commandos sneaking around the shores tapping cables? Moles working in the AT&T for the Canadian government? What happens if one of those individuals get caught, are they quietly allo…
It's amusing to imagine spies from puny former British colonies snooping around the AT&T offices in trench coats and fedoras, but if this is the case, more likely they just share access to data from remote systems
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#506Wouldn’t it be ironic if US used open source Chinese models for domestic mass surveillance and autonomously killing people without human oversight… democracy at its best.
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if it doesn't matter, why is the DoD pushing for it?
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#508Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's always been the loophole. But it involved an extra step so they are just trying to get rid of that one annoyance. Here is an interesting thing to think about which country spies on Americans the most and how? Are there New Zealand commandos sneaking around the shores tapping cables? Moles working in the AT&T for the Canadian government? What happens if one of those individuals get caught, are they quietly allo…
Not just that, but with how unfriendly we have been to the world, there's no guarantee that they will keep sharing as they have in the past.
This is one thing I cannot fault Trump on. He's really succeeded in reducing European reliance on, subservience to, and respect for the USA. Now if we can stand on our own and not just swing further towards China instead, he'll have produced an absolute miracle
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#509Earlier quoted context omitted.
Covid shutdown should have killed our economy, nothing short of government spending prevented otherwise. So many people in the US live a paycheck to paycheck lifestyle, that the covid lockdowns without government spending would have likely devolved into zombie apocalypse territory where hungry people were ransacking homes in more affluent neighborhoods (yes, even occupied homes). This is why people also bought lots o…
Do you think the food bank gives you all of your meals everyday? One day not open and people are eating each other. They wouldn't ransack home in rich neighbourhoods for food for a million reasons (too far, too weak, roads are closed, rich homes have security, rich people have as much food at home or less compared to an average person). They would break into the supermarkets first, then each others homes around them…
I think it would devolve quickly and probably super markets would fall first, but let’s not pretend like you know exactly how it would play out after that. I live in a large metro and super markets run empty a few times a year (usually weather panics), so that isn’t a lasting source of loot. I wasn’t pretending that I knew exactly who would get targeted by it first, just that I know I’m the type of target I discuss and it’s for the same reason my neighborhood is a destination on Halloween; full sized candy bars.
Would love for you to tell me how close we were from it or how many days without food/work/income a large portion of our population could endure before they “would organize and go searching” - which by the way is exactly what I’m talking about.
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#510So now they suddenly develop a conscience? Killing education, and by implication actively dumbing the future world, putting large parts of the labor market at risk, porn fakes, and destroying artistic creation, are acceptable in the name of profit, apparently.