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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by unethical_ban »

kouteiheika wrote: post #274
ctoth wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hint: It's much easier to have good PR by being actually good. Though it does make people like this do the whole implication thing.

Ah, right, by being actually good, as in - being okay with mass surveillance as long as it isn't being done in the US, being okay with Claude assisting in killing people as long as it isn't fully autonomous, and being actively hostile to open-weight LLMs and open research on LLMs? This kind of "good"? No, OP is right, their PR department is doing a great job.

Correct. Protect our citizens' rights, as we are the ones under the jurisdiction of our government. Yes, design competitive weapons systems that can stand up to the threats that adversary powers are creating, but do so while maintaining human control.

That kind of good.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by hobom »

nl wrote: post #126
hobom wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more extreme, that might mean they won't be able to offer Claude to non-US companies at all.

I don't see how you get that reading. Anthropic is clearly allowed to sell Claude to companies not doing business with the US Military. If anything that's more likely to be non-US companies.

Sorry, the "they" referred to the hyperscalers

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by Vaslo »

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by Terr_ »

gustavus wrote: post #168
ctoth wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Purpose of a System is WHAT IT DOES!

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...

I feel this is a facile interpretation of the phrase, kind of like complaining that "Measure Twice Cut Once" would lead to selling illegally adulterated flour. A more steel-man interpretation of POSIWID--the way I think it's intended to be understood--would be:

"The practical outcomes of a system over the long-term reveal something important of the the true-preferences of the various interests which control that system, and these interests may be very different from the system's stated goals."

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by josh2600 »

DivingForGold wrote: post #418
NickAndresen wrote: post #15

"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as…

Supply chain risk ? Seems the risk here is the US Gov't wanting free reign to do whatever they want - - when they want. Look no further than the famous expose by Mark Klein, the former AT&T technician and whistleblower who exposed the NSA's mass surveillance program in 2006, revealing the existence of "Room 641A" in San Francisco. He discovered that AT&T was using a "splitter" to copy and divert internet traffic to t…

I served on the eboard of CWA local 9410 when all of that was going down.

Words cannot describe how crazy things were at that time.

I feel like someone will make a movie about it someday.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by XorNot »

beepbopboopp wrote: post #280
garbawarb wrote: post #228

This sounds like a message to would-be founders: don't base your company in the US. The strongest markets to do business are the ones with the most freedom from government meddling. In the US, big government is happy to use its power to crush private enterprise that it doesn't like.

Name one truly major market that is more business friendly

I think the argument would be that the US is rapidly becoming un-business friendly in the same way that Russia is.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by dafelst »

cmiles8 wrote: post #293

As written this would be the end of Anthropic. AWS, Microsoft et al are all suppliers of the DoW and as written they must immediate stop doing business with Anthropic. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

TACO

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by gambiting »

nemo44x wrote: post #426
rushcar wrote: post #263

"Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." This is authoritarian behavior. You're having trouble negotiating a contract, so instead of just canceling it - you basically ban all of F500 from doing business with that firm.

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What does being sovereign have to do with anything in this case?

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by hoppoli »

American people: latinamerican here. Maybe it's silly to root for a country in the world hegemony arena. I've usually been partial to the USA over China. Now I'm not rooting for your country anymore. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have China being the foremost power, at least they seem to be less keen on invading or heavily strong-arming latinamerica
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