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Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by NortySpock »

leeter wrote: post #490

When MS removed Solitaire and made it an app, that should have been the sign to move. When they introduced a mobile first UI onto a desktop OS... When they forced mandatory Microsoft accounts... When they started saving files that had no place being in one drive to the cloud by default and charging people for it... When they announced the worst AI privacy disaster in computing OS history... When their updates refused…

I've switched to Linux Ubuntu KDE desktop, play my games on Steam Proton, and I'm happy.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by hbn »

leeter wrote: post #490

When MS removed Solitaire and made it an app, that should have been the sign to move. When they introduced a mobile first UI onto a desktop OS... When they forced mandatory Microsoft accounts... When they started saving files that had no place being in one drive to the cloud by default and charging people for it... When they announced the worst AI privacy disaster in computing OS history... When their updates refused…

It's not stockholm syndrome for a lot of people. Microsoft is so firmly entrenched in so much of the corporate world that you can't get away from them. My mom was in the market for a new laptop recently, and I so badly wanted to get her setup with a MacBook Air, but it's not an option because the Sage accounting software she uses for my dad's business is Windows only. And furthermore, the business itself (a small pawn shop) is forced to use some specific software to manage inventory (I believe it allows police to access the database to track serial numbers in finding stolen goods or something), which is a webapp using some antiquated decades-old technology that only runs in Microsoft Edge's IE-compatibility mode (which has become a more and more difficult incantation to enable over the years) and I believe that can only be used on the Windows version of Edge.

For me it's currently the minimal-hassle way to make my Steam library runnable. But it feels like we're moving in a good direction thanks to Valve's efforts where one day I may be able to never boot into Windows on my PC.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by projektfu »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #30
Longhanks wrote: post #4

They’re turning Notepad into what Wordpad was (or was supposed to be). Now everyone looking for the light weightiest *.txt editor must find a new tool...

For the absolute lightweight, there is vi, eMacs, nano, etc. For a UI I’ve been using VSCode. It is quite quick when you disable all extensions and most settings.

Maybe joe, jed, or uEmacs.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by delecti »

somenameforme wrote: post #397
wk_end wrote: post #109

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I don't have any use for Notepad++, but reading about this makes me wish I did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B#Political_messag... The possibility of software being a personal, creative, expressive endeavor (which often includes politics), something I believed in back when I was in university twenty years ago, is a feeling that's receded deeply into the past. That might be as much about me as it is about…

Imagine the result if everybody took to this mindset. Look at everything that's on your desk right now, and what percent of it was made in e.g. China. Imagine if they decided to just start jamming political slogans onto everything. Or for something closer to home, surgeons and anesthesiologists are largely conservative. [1] Imagine if they started signaling their politics. Many people, ironically often those most pre…

A few cosmetic names for patch versions and political banners on websites seems pretty mild. I was a constant user of Notepad++ for more than a decade (until moving my last computer to Linux a few months ago), and never had any idea that they did any of the messaging listed on their Wikipedia.

If anything, I could stand for most things to be just a bit more political than them. Most things are way more political than that.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by tracker1 »

seanthemon wrote: post #155
cogman10 wrote: post #135

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Well, you see, they got rid of all the QA so those tests stopped adding value ;)

they have AI, they don't need QA or tests, come on man, aren't you a 9999999x engineer?

On a serious note... with AI, I feel I'm getting about a 5x improvement on average in terms of productivity.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by tracker1 »

Dwedit wrote: post #197
tracker1 wrote: post #93

I still say this is stupid AF, and that notepad should stay as simple as reasonable as a plain text editor and they should have resurrected "WordPad" for this purpose if they wanted it in Windows. I'm mixed on the enhancements to Paint... but this just feels a bit off. Maybe I'd mind it less if they put the new MS Edit in Windows by default, so again, there's a minimal plain text editor in the box.

Notepad was historically just a thin wrapper for the "EDIT" window class, along with file loading and saving. And WordPad was built on top of the "RICHEDIT" window class, and exposed lots of the OLE features provided by the rich text control. "Insert Object" is a powerful and potentially dangerous feature with a lineage going back to the Windows 3.1 days. As long as your DLL is registered correctly, any document in a…

You could still use the name Wordpad, without using the legacy code for it...

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by Razengan »

leeter wrote: post #490

When MS removed Solitaire and made it an app, that should have been the sign to move. When they introduced a mobile first UI onto a desktop OS... When they forced mandatory Microsoft accounts... When they started saving files that had no place being in one drive to the cloud by default and charging people for it... When they announced the worst AI privacy disaster in computing OS history... When their updates refused…

> When they introduced a mobile first UI onto a desktop OS…

That's when I jumped to Macs and haven't looked back since. Windows is just a glorified game console to me now, but I have enough fun with PS5/Switch exclusives.

Though macOS is also becoming annoying, not quite to that breaking point yet, but worrying

Meanwhile Linuxland seems like a chaos of 10000 people who all think they're right, under an anal overlord

Maybe it's time to dig the Commodore 64 back up? :')

But who cares though, soon AI will make operating systems meaningless, right?

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by reef_sh »

brazzy wrote: post #498
reef_sh wrote: post #480

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I've found that ( at least for me ) that was caused by some entries doing some checks before showing up. Getting a context menu editor and removing some of them can help.

Doesn't matter, it's a shit user experience and Microsoft's fault for putting the onus on the user to fiddle around at that level, rather than putting a hard, very low limit on how long shell extensions can hold up the context menu before they're banned from it.

Oh, I'm not trying to defend Microsoft in any way. Everything they make has been going downhill faster and faster. Just suggesting a possible way to work around it.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by tracker1 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #166
tracker1 wrote: post #93

I still say this is stupid AF, and that notepad should stay as simple as reasonable as a plain text editor and they should have resurrected "WordPad" for this purpose if they wanted it in Windows. I'm mixed on the enhancements to Paint... but this just feels a bit off. Maybe I'd mind it less if they put the new MS Edit in Windows by default, so again, there's a minimal plain text editor in the box.

Wouldn’t VSCode be a better alternative to wordpad?

I was mostly meaning the Wordpad name, not the original incantation of the tool... the only legacy I might support if it was Wordpad as a markdown editor, would be to import RTF/Doc files only supporting what can cleanly adapt to markdown syntax support...

Then I'd probably have a decent print to pdf function as part of it.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by lenkite »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #484
abustamam wrote: post #407

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One of the first projects I made while learning to code was a calculator. It wasn't very sophisticated. But it was fast and it handled commas and periods. It wasn't localized, but it could be. Sad to think that me having a month of coding experience made a better product than MSFT, yet whoever coded the calculator is probably making ten times what I am right now.

The new calculator isn't just slow to open, it seems to have actual input lag too. God I miss the old calculator. To me it's not sad, it's infuriating. This corporation is worth a trillion dollars. Why can't they do their jobs? I'm sure the old calculator could be maintained and improved without screwing it up beyond belief. Send us some fat stacks and we'll do it.

Its AI and not humans that make up that trillion dollars and its AI enshloppification that created the new calculator. You are not AI - no fat stack for you.
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