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Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Have you tried Kagi yet? It's pretty popular among HN folks, and I find it easily worth the price.

Kagi indirectly funds the Kremlin's regime, just to know where your money goes if we're talking about not supporting google.

Damn, how so?

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#502

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Kagi indirectly funds the Kremlin's regime, just to know where your money goes if we're talking about not supporting google.

Damn, how so?

A small percentage goes to Yandex because they use Yandex as an index: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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So cable bundling channels is also “illegal” according to you? Since I don’t watch sports?

There certainly are jurisdictions where tv providers are legally required to offer channels a la carte.

Not in the US…

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Have you tried Kagi yet? It's pretty popular among HN folks, and I find it easily worth the price.

Kagi indirectly funds the Kremlin's regime, just to know where your money goes if we're talking about not supporting google.

Even worse: it funds the White House’s regime more, by a large margin

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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So you are saying a company should never reinvest profits in the company to support another money losing business until it’s profitable? Should Netflix for instance not invested money from renting DVDs to invest in a streaming service? Apple not use the profits it was making from selling Apple //e’s to create the Mac?

> So you are saying a company should never reinvest profits in the company to support another money losing business until it’s profitable? If it makes it impossible to set up a competitor? Absolutely, yes. > Should Netflix for instance not invested money from renting DVDs to invest in a streaming service? Netflix was not priced below the cost of production from the beginning. You're confusing sustainable pricing and…

Netflix very much was priced below the cost of production for years and had to borrow money to make Netflix originals.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Damn, how so?

A small percentage goes to Yandex because they use Yandex as an index: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Thanks for this! That’s incredibly disappointing.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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So you are saying a company should never reinvest profits in the company to support another money losing business until it’s profitable? Should Netflix for instance not invested money from renting DVDs to invest in a streaming service? Apple not use the profits it was making from selling Apple //e’s to create the Mac?

Subsidizing the cost of developing a product isn't necessarily bad, but predatory pricing that prohibits competition would be. Not sure that this case is either. This is just idiots breaking the TOS.

So exactly what’s the difference between “predatory pricing” and pricing to gain customers and market share? Should Sony have to sell the first PlayStation off the line at $2000 (making up a number) so it can sell it at a marginal profit from day one or should it sell it below cost knowing that that over its lifetime if it stays at that price, it will both gain customers and sell at a profit in year 4 as the price of technology comes down and it gets economies of scale?

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#510
TOS is TOS and if there is one company not to mess with it's Google because they don't give 2 shits about you. Going straight to a ban with 0 warning and 0 appeal possibility is exactly why I'll never use googles AI chat/coding products, it's just not worth the risk getting banned and losing access to other google services.
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