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Philosophically I want to agree with you more but Meta is the informational equivalent of RJ Reynolds. They’ve facilitated crime waves (remember all of the hand-wringing about shoplifting which died down when the government went after Facebook marketplace and Amazon?), supported genocide, and elevated some of the worst voices in the world. Giving them more money and social control is a risk which should be discussed.
You're doing it too. Please don't.
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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened
#502One question is should the writer be dismissed from staff. Or can they stay on at Ars if for example, it was explained as an unintentional mistake while using an LLM to restructure his own words and it accidentally inserted the quotes and slipped through. We’re all going through a learning process with this AI stuff right? I think for some people this could be a redeemable mistake at their job. If someone turns in a…
No. Don't giving people free passes because of LLMs. Be responsible for your work.
They submitted an article with absolute lies and now the company has a reputational problem on its hands. No one cares if that happened because they sought out to publish lies or if it was because they made a tee-hee whoopsie-doodle with an LLM. They screwed up and look at the consequences they've caused for the company.
> I think for some people this could be a redeemable mistake at their job. If someone turns in a status report with a hallucination, that’s not good clearly but the damage might be a one off / teaching moment.
Why would you keep someone around who:
1. Lies
2. Doesn't seem to care enough to do their work personally, and
3. Doesn't check their work for the above-mentioned lies?
They have proven, right then, right there, that you can't trust their output because they cut corners and don't verify it.
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Yes, Wayback machine/archive.org is one of the best websites on the whole world wide web.
Agreed and that's why there's an incentive to DDoS it and degrade the quality. Are there any p2p backup solutions?
Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened
#504I have very strong, probably controversial, feeling on arstechnica, but I believe the acquisition from Condé Nast has been a tragedy. Ars writers used to be actual experts, sometimes even phd level, on technical fields. And they used to write fantastical and very informative articles. Who is left now? There are still a couple of good writers from the old guard and the occasional good new one, but the website is flood…
I think the fact that they one of the last places surviving from that generation of the Internet says a lot. The Condé Nast acquisition may have been a tragedy, but they managed to survive for this long. They’ve been continuously publishing online for about 30 years. It’s honestly amazing that they’ve managed to last this long. Yes, it’s very different than it was back in the day. You don’t see 20+ page reviews of op…
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Ars has been going downhill for sometime now. I think it's difficult for a lot of these bigger publishers to be anything other than access journalism and advertising. I'm not saying Ars is fully there yet, but the pull is strong.
The bigger story is the way tech companies sucked the oxygen out of journalism. This started with capturing a growing chunk of ad revenue but then became editorial control as everyone started picking headlines, writing styles, and publication schedules to please the tech companies which control whether they receive 80% of their traffic. Everyone writes like Buzzfeed now because Twitter and Facebook made that the most…
They helped monopolize the industry. Willingly destroying the utility of RSS for end users is a prime example.
> Google/Twitter/Facebook need a constant stream of new links
Yet people can't understand that "AI" is just a tool to rip off copyright. For almost _precisely_ this reason here.
> we see societally stem back to people not paying for media
The problem is there is not infinite bandwidth for media. If a free option exists people will gravitate towards it. The real problem is that media sales people and media editors are allowed to be in the same room. We used to understand the value of a "firewall" in this context.
It has nothing to do with the people. It has everything to do with those holding the profit motive. They'll willingly destroy useful things in order to tilt the field in their direction. Social problems rarely have a distributed social cause.
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Would that excuse being extremely negative about anything that is much less than extremely negative?
That is an incredibly tortured sentence. I'm not really interested in parsing tone in an article, that's very subjective. I would be interested if you could demonstrate that Ars was choosing not to write articles about factual things that would portray Musk in a positive light, but you instead basically said "If you ignore all of their positive factual coverage, they don't publish anything positive about Musk at all!…
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You're doing it too. Please don't.
I realize it makes you uncomfortable but the harms are done whether or not you ignore them. That’s the problem: people can exploit that desire to be fair, “neutral”, say it’s “just business”, etc. for years until the negative impacts on society are too hard to ignore. Think about how the fossil fuel industry managed to get people to talk like there was a debate with two sides deserving equal respect and parlay that i…
I think you're misunderstanding or misrepresenting them. The fight to have the most jaded or pessimistic take, the hottest flame, the spiciest rant, it's all so predictable and it's just a bunch of the same people saying the same things and agreeing with each other for the nth time. It brings nothing new to the table, and the posts that actually respond to the new information get drowned out or worse downvoted for insufficient vitriol.
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This is just one of the reasons archiving is so important in the digital era; it's key to keeping people honest.
Yes, Wayback machine/archive.org is one of the best websites on the whole world wide web.
It's that important.
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Aurich Lawson (creative director at Ars) posted a comment[0] in response to a thread about what happened, the article has been pulled and they'll follow-up next week. [0]: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards...
It’s funny they say the article “may have” run afoul of their journalistic standards. May have is carrying a lot of weight there.
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#510Ars Technica being caught using LLMs that hallucinated quotes by the author and then publishing them in their coverage about this is quite ironic here. Even on a forum where I saw the original article by this author posted someone used an LLM to summarize the piece without having read it fully themselves. How many levels of outsourcing thinking is occurring to where it becomes a game of telephone.
I just wish people would remember how awful and unprofessional and lazy most "journalists" are in 2026. It's a slop job now. Ars Technica, a supposedly reputable institution, has no editorial review. No checks. Just a lazy slop cannon journalist prompting an LLM to research and write articles for her. Ask yourself if you think it's much different at other publications.
The ones that remain are probably at some extreme on one or more attributes (e.g. overworked, underpaid) and are leaning on genAI out of desperation.