Lennart Poettering, Christian Brauner founded a new company

Post by mkeeter » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 1:01 PM UTC

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PunchyHamster wrote: post #401

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see latest "MS just divilged disk encryption keys to govt" news to see why this is a horrid idea

I’m skeptical about the push toward third-party hardware attestation for Linux kernels. Handing kernel trust to external companies feels like repeating mistakes we’ve already seen with iOS and Android, where security mechanisms slowly turned into control mechanisms. Centralized trust Hardware attestation run by third parties creates a single point of trust (and failure). If one vendor controls what’s “trusted,” Linux…

Post by jorvi » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 1:15 PM UTC

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> like "at least one real IP address is available" or "time has been synced" "network-online.target is a target that actively waits until the network is “up”, where the definition of “up” is defined by the network management software. Usually it indicates a configured, routable IP address of some kind. Its primary purpose is to actively delay activation of services until the network has been set up." For time sync ch…

it's the "usually" that's the problem this service (untouched by me) had: After=local-fs.target network-online.target remote-fs.target time-sync.target but it was still started without an IP address, and then failed to bind just like this sort of problem: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4880#issuecomment-... the entire thing is unreliable and doesn't act like you'd expect > Or you can do something with Exec…

Post by bmn__ » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 1:25 PM UTC

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A silver lining, is it would likely be attempted via systemd. This may finally be enough to kick off a fork, and get rid of all the silly parts of it. To anyone thinking not possibile, we already switched inits to systemd. And being persnickety saw mariadb replace mysql everywhere, libreoffice replace open office, and so on. All the recent pushiness by a certain zealotish Italian debian maintainer, only helps this ca…

> A silver lining, is it would likely be attempted via systemd. This may finally be enough to kick off a fork, and get rid of all the silly parts of it. This misunderstands why systemd succeeded. It included several design decisions aimed at easing distribution maintainers' burdens, thus making adoption attractive to the same people that would approve this adoption. If a systemd fork differentiates on not having atte…

Post by noisy_boy » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 1:40 PM UTC

TacticalCoder wrote: post #320

getcrunk wrote: post #56

systemd solved/improved a bunch of things for linux, but now the plan seems to be to replace package management with image based whole dist a/b swaps. and to have signed unified kernel images. this basically will remove or significantly encumber user control over their system, such that any modification will make you loose your "signed" status and ... boom! goodbye accessing the internet without an id pottering recen…

> this basically will remove or significantly encumber user control over their system, such that any modification will make you loose your "signed" status and ... boom! goodbye accessing the internet without an id Yeah. I'm pretty sure it requires a very specific psychological profile to decide to work on such a user-hostile project while post-fact rationalizing that it's "for good". All I can say is I'm not surprise…

Post by noisy_boy » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 1:42 PM UTC

weinzierl wrote: post #88

Lennart will be involved with at least three events at FOSDEM on the coming weekend. The talks seem unrelated at first glance but maybe there will be an opportunity to learn more about his new endeavor. https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/speaker/lennart_poettering/