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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Sorry 100% human. Do you think maybe I created the account so that I could post it and not feel afraid of repercussions, because I live in a fascist country run by thugs?

You are literally comparing the US to China on censorship in this sentence.

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> neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen Greenland is happening, and will be underway soon. It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. Canada is on the back burner after the realization that a country with a leader who was the Governor of the national banks of two major countries might know a thing or two about economic warf…

> It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. That's where i think France have dropped the ball with its last presidents. Any pre-2007 president would have already declared Greenland as "EU, thus France sovereign interest" and reiterated French nuclear doctrine since 1964 (One warning shot, then tactical nukes, aiming for the army/supply and no…

de Gaulle absolutely would have done that and more, Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing probably. Not sure about Mitterrand / Chirac.

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They play things according to their own rules, but at least they have some.

No they don’t. Source: me, lived/worked in China for 6 years. There are two rules: 1) to the strongest (doesn’t matter how you get there, 2) make/keep the right connections (guanxi) that will “apply” regulations to your benefit. Most cut-throat place I’ve ever worked.

How is that different from the US?

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Other country only sees that US elected Trump. So, yes, the US.

This is a point in time for the US and there are institutional paths to change. The comparisons to China forget that China does not have the same mechanisms for change. China is an immutable state outside of revolution or the administration just deciding to transfer power. If they are successful in destroying democracy, I will reevaluate my view. We don't know what's going to happen in the midterms or 2028.

> If they are successful in destroying democracy, I will reevaluate my view. We don't know what's going to happen in the midterms or 2028.

But again, and I say that as a European, we don't really care: what we see is the position of the US no matter if it is coming from your congress, president, secretary or whatever.

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Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Ask every American AI company what they think of IP protections. Apparently all intellectual property is fair game now.

IP was useful in its time, but it is obsolete in this age.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Its only the first 50K that get 6%, still pretty interesting as being physically so close to the US could cause people in the US to get their first look at Chinese cars. Chinese car companies face far more ruthless competition than western ones so could end up making better cars as a result, imo. There are over 100 brands in china selling electric cars

Chinese EVs are already way ahead of most western EVs - really, you need to see some of the cars the likes of Zeekr, Lynk & Co, Denza and Xpeng are releasing.

Having lived/worked in China for 6 years and knowing how most companies there operate and the way they cut corners so things look shiny on the outside but are crappy on the inside, I have very little confidence in any Chinese brand, especially not any of the newer brands. I would not buy a Chinese EV even at a lower price point.

There are a couple of exceptions to the above -- DJI and Anker are two companies I do trust -- but those are companies who have had a very strong focus on Western markets for years now, which forces them into a whole different level of QA. And they make much simpler products than EVs. Xiaomi _could_ potentially a trusted EV brand, they've been around a long time, tried to be the "Apple of China" and certainly came closer than other brands, but while I'd buy a phone from them I wouldn't buy a car from them.

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Same experience... I was told I was not Han and not family so f-you

For how long have WASPs been telling outgroups to go kick rocks (or much worse) in the US?

it's not comparable, not by a long shot; the level of insider dealing, corporate theft, and corruption, is nothing like what's in the US (that is until Trump 2.0)

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As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

I feel the same way about the US, but China is even worse. It’s basically what the US is becoming but still further down the road of authoritarianism. So I’m not rooting for it. EU, Canada, Japan etc are a better allay this point.

The US just has better propaganda.

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This is what happens when you abandon your allies and soft power. The US is about to find out that their economy isn't capable of surviving in 2026 without the soft power they've had since WWII. Steven Miller is also about to find out that, no you can't just "take what you want" and expect the rest of the world to do nothing.

Thanks to the kleptrocrats and oligarchs… sold ya sold ya sold ya.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

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