That is such a bizarre opinion to have. Do you not enjoy art because it gives you joy?
Art is interesting because it’s fundamentally human and challenges you. Slop is incapable of doing that.
I'm with you on the sentiment, but pretty sure this is wrong.
Art is interesting and challenges you because you choose to have that reaction to it. Part of the reason for making that choice comes from what you believe about the origin of the art.
Funny to see this right now. Spotify's promotion of AI music bothered me so much that it has actually pushed me to Bandcamp and the practice of buying music again. It's really fun to build a collection knowing you're supporting the artists, download FLAC files, organize your little "collection" page ... Feels like a renaissance in my relationship with music, the most fun I've had since what.cd. Anyway, love this stan…
Great to see this! The flood of AI Music will bring music royalties down to zero which Im all for if it kills AI music(spammers and silly prompt engineer songwriters trying to make a buck go away)! AI trying to mimic humanity all ways needs to die! Who does AI benefit besides those at the very top?
*Note i am hobbyist songwriter (melody and lyrics) since a teen (few decades ago)and use Suno. It makes my songs sound just like everyone elses cookie cutter crap... it has no soul to it.. just the feel of tech billionaires getting filthy rich off destroying society/humanity!
Funny to see this right now. Spotify's promotion of AI music bothered me so much that it has actually pushed me to Bandcamp and the practice of buying music again. It's really fun to build a collection knowing you're supporting the artists, download FLAC files, organize your little "collection" page ... Feels like a renaissance in my relationship with music, the most fun I've had since what.cd. Anyway, love this stan…
If you came across a song and fell in love with it, only to find out later that it was generated by ai, would you stop loving the song?
I think I would. This has actually happened in fact.
Personally, I just don’t find myself interested at all in AI generated music. Don’t think I’m alone here, either. I suspect there will soon be a streaming platform whose sole value is to maintain a catalog of verified human music. Pretty easy problem to solve.
That's fine until, for example and by analogy, you go to the store to buy beer, and you don't particularly care for IPA, but IPAs have crowded out half the beers that used to be there including the one you used to sit back and enjoy.
How does the analogy work with music though? Are you saying that because there is now over-produced pop there is now less rock, jazz or whatever you prefer? If so, is that actually true and verifiable by numbers?
More like among the things you could stumble on at random, a greater proportion of them are things you're not interested in. You incur more of a burden of intentionality/effort. Less like discovering, where something happens to you, and more like seeking/finding, an act of will. Which some will say they prefer, maybe even me included...
Every major platform needs to also do this. They've all become overrun with literal trash.
This platform sees high front page placement / hundreds of votes for AI-written … uh sorry I mean “I used the AI to clean up my notes” … content daily. I have an allergic reaction to it and flag, but clearly a majority of the hn voting population appreciates it, so if it isn’t banned it will continue.
I use writing to think - I also happen to be really good at typing so fast my hands don't coordinate. And I am a terrible speller.
If I wanted to publish my writing, people would focus on that, and not the content of the writing. If I run it through Kimi K2, people will focus on my ideas.
I love this decision from Bandcamp. If you have seen sites like DeviantArt collapse because of AI generated trash you’ll know what it’s like for these services to completely collapse under the flood of inauthentic AI slop. They become unusable. I ended up deleting my DA last year and it looks like I’ll continue to be a Bandcamp user for many more years. I’ve found a bunch of my favorite bands from Bandcamp! No Point in Living, Iapetus, Unreqvited! Just to name a few.
I've been having fun making stuff in Suno, I'm not a musician but I've always enjoyed "producing tracks" using Abelton and find the Suno + Abelton combo to be real magic on the weekends. I think some of the stuff I made isn't too bad and I'd love feedback on it. For a few weeks I went back and forth about uploading them to my soundcloud and resolve with this: I wouldn't have insisted we only allowed art made with MS…
Whenever I see defences of AI "art" people very often reduce the arguments to these analogies of using tools, but it's ineffective. Whether you use MS Paint, Photoshop, pencil, watercolor etc. That all requires skill, practice, and is this great intersection of intent and ability. It's authentic . Generating media with AI requires no skill, no intent, and very minimal labor. It is an approximation of the words you ty…
That argument is pretty close to what people used to say about photography.
In reality its more about the candler maker seeing gaslighting down the road. You are not going to compete.