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Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Forget Siri, I have a much lower bar — I’ll be happy if they just improve iOS typing corrections/completions, which often don’t make any sense given the rest of the sentence.

Not just rest of the sentence. In my opinion, autocorrect desperately needs to take into account the context of the current screen.

There are many times I want to type the same word that is already on the app screen but it autocorrects me to something completely different.

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E2E encrypted is nothing if key escrow is happening. Why did they change their wording from: Nobody can read your data, not even Apple to: Apple cannot read your data. You know why.

When did they change their wording?

It's a warrant canary, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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> 1996 I'm chuckling at the idea of pirating software in 1996. iirc even in 1999, I couldn't figure out why Windows update required me to use internet exploder. It would take forever to download updates over dialup.

My older brother and I were pirating software from BBSes before the World Wide Web existed. Talk about being there when the deep magic was written.

Exchanging "emails" over FidoNet was so cool

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Models are becoming commodities, and their economy doesn't justify the billions required to train a SOTA model. Apple just recognized that.

Models are becoming less like commodities. They're differentiating with strengths and weaknesses. When Chinese labs gain more traction, they will stop releasing their models for free. At that point, everyone who wants SOTA models will have to pay.

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> 1996 I'm chuckling at the idea of pirating software in 1996. iirc even in 1999, I couldn't figure out why Windows update required me to use internet exploder. It would take forever to download updates over dialup.

My older brother and I were pirating software from BBSes before the World Wide Web existed. Talk about being there when the deep magic was written.

Or buying CDs packed with software from markets. In Glasgow you could get copies of loads of high-end software from traders in the Barras market.

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> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

> Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door They don't though, Android is clearly ahead in AI integration (even Samsung are running TV ads mocking iPhones AI capability) yet still iPhones sales are breaking records - the majority of their phone buyers still prefer an iPhone over an AI capable other phone. They can take their time to develop AI integration that others can't deploy - '…

The reality is that almost nobody actually wants LLMs in their phones.

They're not good enough for that usecase, currently - so almost all interactions make the UX worse, currently.

Might change in the future, I'm just taking about today in January 2026

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Yes but they also haven’t generated spicy deep fakes and talked kids into suicide with their products. It’s just how Apple does things: They still have no folding phone, under-screen finger print scanner, under-screen front-cam, etc.

Apple is always behind on industry trends, but when they adopt them eventually, they become mainstream and cool. This is what will happen with the folding phones this year, if rumors are true.

> but when they adopt them eventually, they become mainstream and cool

When was this part last true?

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That was their goal, but in the past couple years they seem to have given up on client-side-only ai. Once they let that go, it became next to impossible to claw back to client only… because as client side ai gets better so does server side, and people’s expectations scale up with server side. And everybody who this was a dealbreaker for left the room already.

Apple thinks they can get a best-of-both-worlds approach with Private Cloud Compute. They believe they can secure private servers specialized to specific client devices in a way that the cloud compute effort is still "client-side" from a trust standpoint, but still able to use extra server-side resources (under lock and key). I don't know how close to that ideal they've achieved, but especially given this announcemen…

You're excited together with a handful of other privacy enthusiasts on HackerNews.

I would think for the vast majority of users out there this is not a concern at all.

Apple until now failed to even get the basics done and make Siri smart, despite marketing "Apple Intelligence" as the core feature of 2024's iPhone.

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> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

> At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door To the extent Cupertino fucked up, it's in having had this attitude when they rolled out Apple Intelligence. There isn't currently a forcing function. Apple owns the iPhone, and that makes it an emperor among kings. Its wealth is also built on starting with user problems and then working backwards to the technology, versus embracing whatever's hot and…

> Its wealth is also built on starting with user problems and then working backwards to the technology

Since when?

> versus embracing whatever's hot and trying to shove it down our throats

I agree here, to a degree. It's just that Apple tells its customers what's hot and then shoves it down their throats.

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