Ive the workaround its not that complex; yall, its a REPL on your machine fellas, do you really think you can stop anyone from proxying whatever we damn want through it?
Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#502For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…
> More importantly, Anthropic should have open sourced their Claude Code CLI a year ago. (They can and should just open source it now.) "Should have" for what reason? I would be happy if they open sourced Claude Code, but the reality is that Claude Code is what makes Anthropic so relevant in the programming more, much more than the Claude models themselves. Asking them to give it away for free to their competitors se…
I have the rehydrated version, should I publish it
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#503I feel like I'm the only person on this site that doesn't use AI for coding. I guess there's probably a lot of other people that haven't commented on this story who don't use it either. But when I read about how much hype and all that sort of stuff there is in the AI industry, and then I see the amount of posts and commentary and deep technical discussion about how this feature has affected people, I'm not so sure. E…
I use it sparingly. I do still have to produce boilerplate and don't have the time/will to engineer a better solution. But any actual logic etc I do myself. Why would I take a chance on an LLM doing it wrong when I know exactly how I want it and am perfectly capable of doing it myself. Also, what the hell am I going to do in the minutes it takes to generate, just sit there and watch it? No thanks.
Because if the LLM does it wrong you simply correct it, you will still get to the end result quicker than DIY. People like this stuff because they’re getting their work done faster, or getting more work done. Personally while waiting I’m either creating plans for other tasks, or I do chores, exercise, watch TV, have a shower, etc.
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#504Earlier quoted context omitted.
> More importantly, Anthropic should have open sourced their Claude Code CLI a year ago. (They can and should just open source it now.) "Should have" for what reason? I would be happy if they open sourced Claude Code, but the reality is that Claude Code is what makes Anthropic so relevant in the programming more, much more than the Claude models themselves. Asking them to give it away for free to their competitors se…
> the reality is that Claude Code is what makes Anthropic so relevant in the programming more, much more than the Claude models themselves but Claude Code cannot run without Claude models? What do you mean?
Yes, it can.
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#505Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, ClaudeCode is $200/mo? I’m not using it now, but was thinking about giving it a try. The website shows $200/year for Pro: “$17 Per month with annual subscription discount ($200 billed up front). $20 if billed monthly.” https://claude.com/pricing What are you referring to that’s 10x that price? (Conversely, I’m wondering why Pro costs 1/10 the value of whatever you’re referring to?!?)
I got a pro subscription yesterday. With it you get a certain amount of tokens and you have a certain limit every 5 hours and every week. Once the limit is reached, you can choose to pay-per-token, upgrade your plan, or just wait until it refreshes. The more expensive subscription variants just contain more tokens, that’s all.
Right. I understand the potential for maximum usage (and abusing) of Claude in production. I don't suspect Claude will get caught too easily giving free beer.
We'll both find out if Pro's token limits are sufficient for spending a weekend on a learning project, and what the fallback looks like.
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#506Earlier quoted context omitted.
Give me an example of one such regulation.
Are you sure you're participating in good faith? I'll go ahead and indulge you for the benefit of the audience though. The generic term is predatory pricing and it's regulated to some extent in pretty much every country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing#Legal_aspect... When carried out at the international level it's known as dumping. The WTO has provisions against it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum…
I fail to see how standard business practices Anthropic is engaging are predatory. If anything, the customer is clearly at an advantage here.
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#507For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…
My guess is the subscription plans provide a way of controlling the base load better, because of how the "session duration" and token quota per session and week work. People can get tremendous value, but a lot of that value is only available at night (theoretically when their GPUs are most likely to have less contention). So it's kind of a pricing strategy around their excess capacity. (For comparison, when first announced, AWS spot instances were like 10x cheaper than reserved.)
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#508Hopefully this doesn't happen with GitHub Copilot. OpenCode is fantastic. They offer a server and an SDK. This means I build amazing personal tools. GitHub Copilots low price + OpenCode is just amazing.
Good news - it looks like the GitHub Copilot team is actually working with the OpenCode team to support subscription authentication [1]
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#509This was always against the terms of service. Took too long to crack down on it.
There seems to be a lot of FUD on how anthropic prices it. but i think many devs and harness builders are intentionally misrespresenting things to build pressure.
API capacity has specific SLAs and the infra is for peak capacity expectation. API demand is notoriously spiky, especially when you don't know who is going to be using it via the third party. At any given time you would have 20%-30% utilization, given the api is mostly used by tools like Cursor who have a system of routing by themselves. For subs, they can use the unused capacity (with high priority to API requests). The marginal cost of a query is not as high especially given kv cache and continuous batching (and with new parallelism techniques). With subs, the number is expected, the concurrency can be modelled, and hence the price per token is lower.
With third party APIs reverse engineering that, it breaks the whole thing in two ways - one more pressure via subs. Claude code rarely parallelizes requests while Cline does it every time (for example). It also cancels out the peak capacity estimation. In a way you could argue that same users doing it via subs woudl have been doing it via api too, but given the pricing differences, not the same. This ends up affecting people legitimately using the subscription.
Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions
#510For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…
> Everything about this is ridiculous, and it's all Anthropic's fault. Anthropic shouldn't have an all-you-can-eat plan for $200 when their pay-as-you-go plan would cost more than $1,000+ for comparable usage
Hard disagree. Companies can and do subsidize products to gather market share. It's just a loss leader [1]. The big money for them is likely satisfied software engineers pushing their employers to pay for more Anthropic products in an enterprise setting.