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Re: Steam Machine

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What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link, downloads are still bottlenecked by the drives. And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally.

I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC. I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.

there is almost no one who has multigigabit internet and even for people that do, you spend significantly less than 1 percent of your time on that device downloading. its a complete non issue. this device is a midrange at best pc, so having a gigabit connection is exactly where it should be. if you want to have the best of the best build a pc.

Re: Steam Machine

#502

> Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? i'm having a hard time describing the feelings this makes me feel. like i've been stressed, bedraggled and worn down, and suddenly there's a moment where i can just rest it's nice to be excited about something for once instead of the baseline expectation of a horrible adversarial experience, which is the case for most tech in 2025 it is somewhat depressing that it's…

The Steam Deck has been my dream computer for this reason. It just works, literally all of the hardware is 100% supported on linux. And it's also not locked down in any way. You are completely free to install anything you want. I'm just so glad at least one tech company has the resources and will to create something that is a fully polished consumer ready product which also isn't completely restricted.

Re: Steam Machine

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post #477

16 GB of RAM, 4K@60 FPS, with USB3. I’m afraid that this steam machine is so underpowered that it is no better if not much significantly slower than a MacBook Pro with a M4 Max. The specs appear to be from late 2019. Might as well get a PS5 instead. No thanks and No deal.

>> I’m afraid that this steam machine is so underpowered that it is no better if not much significantly slower than a MacBook Pro with a M4 Max. Isn't that one of the fastest laptops money can buy?

"If the Steam Machine can't compete with a $3500 laptop I don't even want it!"

Re: Steam Machine

#504

It looks pretty bad on the photos.

It does kinda look like a regular SFF PC case rather than a bespoke piece of hardware, but maybe they were going for that.

The biggest complaint about the PS5 is that it stood out too much. That's the one compelling point about the Xbox Series series designs - they don't look out of place in your entertainment centre.

This is the same - you can put it somewhere people can see it and it's not an eyesore.

Re: Steam Machine

#505
post #421

It looks pretty bad on the photos.

I thought it looked pretty attractive? Small, understated, something that would fit in pretty much anywhere without clashing. It doesn't have anything resembling a "gaming" aesthetic, which is a huge plus in my book.

It doesn't have to be all gamer RGB, but, for me, it has to look well-designed, e.g., like Apple products. The Steam Machine looks fine, but the controller looks cheap and all the buttons seem too far away from each other, as if it's meant to be held by someone with large hands.

Re: Steam Machine

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post #449

I find it weird that a new device in 2025 still comes with only one USB-C port and otherwise only USB-A. Is USB-C that much more expensive? Is it about power delivery?

USB-C is still not widely adopted for many specific uses, in particular peripherals (keyboard/mouse dongles) Logitech finally got their USB-C dongle out last year I think ? Keychron only offers USB-A as far as I know. And many other keyboard and mouse brands are in the same boat. Depending on your setup that's already 2 USB-A ports needed. You can put an adapter, but you're then dongling a dongle. PS: just realized V…

I was about to bitch about Logitech and their USB-A dongle yesterday and looked to see that they did finally produce a USB-C dongle. Miracles do happen.

Re: Steam Machine

#507

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? From your mouth to Tim Cook's ear, friend.

And Sundar's too with the latest BS about Android sideloading.

It may be too late, but its probably a good idea to to shift the language and start saying installing software on your own device. Google likes the term sideloading because it implies its a weird hack to not get all your software from their store.

Re: Steam Machine

#508

Linus Torvalds was right. Valve will save the Linux desktop.

...by emulating WinAPI

The original comment by Linus was that Valve would not accept the current state of things where to distribute a program on Linux you need to create a different package for every single distro. Which is true, Steam with Proton has pushed a single stable platform where you can publish a single build and it works everywhere. In desktop mode of SteamOS everything is installed through Flatpak.

Re: Steam Machine

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post #346

8GB vram in 2026?!

I'm thinking maybe it's unified memory? They posted "16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM" as the specs as RAM. Typically you'd put the GPU-only VRAM together with the GPU, but the GPU has it's own separate row in the specs. Kind of suspicious how they placed those together like that, isn't it?

Re: Steam Machine

#510
> Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?

Isn't it just a relief to see a product announcement where this is a proudly announced selling point.

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