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Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

Tangential point:

Whilst I don't hear as much about people getting banned from their Facebook accounts as I do about Google accounts getting perma-banned with little to no recourse, it does seem that legitimate users of their services are treated as second class citizens, whilst literal scammers and fraudsters are given the white glove treatment because it contributes to their revenue.

And it must be a non-trivial contribution to their revenue, because it must be worth having their reputation smeared.

All of the hard problems they've been able to solve, and the questionable application of AI to everything, and yet they cannot solve this? Complete BS.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by frm88 »

ferguess_k wrote: post #114
jeffbee wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google one is quite good if you use Chrome anyway.

Thanks, I use Firefox but I did save all of my past passwords in Google password already. So I guess I could keep it. I might switch anyway though as I'm switching to Brave.

I use KeePass XC. Open source, free, local storage with versions for both Linux and Windows and mobile (even carry your DB on an USB stick, works like a charm).

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by whamlastxmas »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #292
whamlastxmas wrote: post #237

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I only ever see "Pray for the people of Israel" ads which is basically thinly veiled "fuck Palestine" messaging

if only there were some websites, an Ads Library or Ads Transparency Center of some kind, where people could easily verify any or all of this

This is the exact billboard that came to mind for me, I drove by it daily for a long time

https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1bmdy03/someone_in_...

There were many other similar ones, especially on the smaller digital ad spaces that were basically just TVs on the side of roads. And those ones were more specifically calling for empathy for the deaths occurring to Israeli people during the war on Palestine

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by njwi332 »

nostrademons wrote: post #284
fouronnes3 wrote: post #28

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I don't see how the yearly tech support I do with my parents at Christmas will not one day converge to an outright ban of the internet. I am now demoing the level of sofistication of AI powered scams, telling them that it is now entirely possible they will get a VIDEO CALL from me that's not actually me asking for God knows what in a very convincing way using my face and voice. I am scared and this close to setting u…

I think the Internet will, sometime in the near future, just get shut down. That's been what actually happens in countries that are undergoing civil unrest or war like Russia, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Tanzania, Israel, Myanmar, etc. And it's fairly likely civil unrest or perhaps even war may spread to an increasing fraction of the developed world too. So my strategy here has been to start downloading anything that I thi…

Great idea. Any pointers for someone who might do the same? I.e. data sources you deemed useful besides Wikipedia

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Post by iso1631 »

ryandrake wrote: post #277
grayhatter wrote: post #222

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> I never understand why well-paid HN commentators refuse to pay for their entertainment. People don't want to pay (help) people they don't like. YouTube ads do not feel fair, they feel manipulative and unethical. It's expected that most people wouldn't want to willingly engage with that kind of asshattery. Contrast that with platforms like twitch. I'd say the average twitch viewer (that interacts with streams/chats)…

I don't pay because it feels like paying protection money to the mafia. "Here's an annoyance/danger we created for you. If you pay us, we'll stop doing it."

You don't see any adverts on youtube if you don't watch youtube.

My local cinema charges me to watch a film. Sure I could sneak in through the fire escape.

That's not paying protection money.

If they say "you can watch for free if you attend our timeshare presentation first", then that's still not paying protection money.

If I want a magician to entertain me at a party, it's not paying protection money. If they say "you can watch for free but only if you listen to me drivel on about some cause first" that doesn't either.

People on HN are unwiling to pay people to entertain them. Its astounding.

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Post by wongogue »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #367

The key sentences: > the company prioritized enforcement in regions where the penalties would be steepest, the reporting found. The cost of lost revenue from clamping down on the scams was weighed against the cost of fines from regulators. The companies don't necessarily want scams, and they might even be willing to forgo the scam revenue itself. But if the consequence of allowing the scam is low, and the consequence…

People advocating for regulation-free economy are just temporarily embarassed scamsters.

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Post by r0fl »

piva00 wrote: post #45
r0fl wrote: post #34

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YouTube on Apple TV was one of the last places I saw ads. Ad blockers on browser and iPhone and all other streaming providers I pay for have no ads Paying for YouTube premium lite (I think it’s new) has been the best thing in ages! The toxic ads are finally gone!

YouTube Premium Lite used to exist years ago, then they discontinued it in 2024 (I know because I used to be a very happy subscriber), now they brought it back but only in a few selected markets[0]. Google products' bullshit as usual, I never needed/wanted YouTube Music and the other bloat they wanted to force me to pay for, I was happily paying to not have ads... [0] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6307365…

I currently have YouTube premium lite in Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

getnormality wrote: post #11

As my children become old enough to have more unfettered internet access, I plan to tell them the lessons of my experience: that all online ads are for products that range from disappointing to fraudulent, so do your best to completely ignore them. I would hope that every parent does the same and we end up with a generation that dries up the revenue for this sick racket. I suppose the next move by advertisers will be…

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Post by infecto »

jasonlotito wrote: post #480
infecto wrote: post #233

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Please don’t start drama where nothing exists. You were confused and I pointed out that 1) I believe we are talking about promoted, which is paid, videos not the recommendation engine. These of course are not purely ads but are paid for. And 2) that these chum style ads and promoted videos have a much higher prevalence with folks that block tracker where user profiles have not been built. It’s the chum ads of the vid…

> Please don’t start drama where nothing exists. You were ignorant (fact) and unecessarily antagonistic (fact). I corrected you. > You were confused and I pointed out that I wasn't, and claiming I was is a lie. > I am simply asking what is the point of the response to my comment. Yes, you were ignorant. You didn't know somehting. Ignorance isn't an insult. It's a lack of knowledge. > instead of using inflammatory lan…

You’re arguing over nothing. All I have consistently said is scam ads/promoted videos exist in high volume on YouTube but usually only for viewer profiles where YouTube has little to no profile. Those are the cheaper spend areas hence scam ads. YouTube like most of the other platforms do little to police it.

The ads are get rich quick, unregulated powders, crypto etc.

So again I am not even sure what you are arguing about or why you use such nasty language but read what I keep saying and relax.

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