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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by epolanski »

leakycap wrote: post #213
mjamesaustin wrote: post #132

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I play absolutely everything on my M1 Macbook Pro. Through Crossover, basically every Windows game runs fine. I used to check ahead of time before buying a game, but it's so good I now kind of just assume games work.

A NVIDIA 2080 graphics card from 2018 still surpasses the M5 for gaming. The M5 Pro coming early next year will likely finally catch up with the 8-year-old 2080. I'm happy to hear your games work well for you, but it sounds like the games you're playing aren't demanding compared to modern AAA titles. Most games released in the last year or two don't run well on my 2080 test system at anything approaching decent graph…

You can absolutely play demanding and modern AAA titles on MBPs.

What you can't do is run them expecting to have every detail knob maxed out and very high framerates.

Yet blind test after blind test shows that most people can't even fully appreciate extra vs medium details.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by epolanski »

leakycap wrote: post #283
amaranth wrote: post #275

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A 2080 is about the same performance as a 5060 and every game is going to be able to run on a 5060. You might not be running it at 4K Ultra with ray tracing enabled but you should be able to run at like 1080p High or better. Whether or not the M5 GPU is actually capable of that level of performance or whether the drivers will let it reach its potential is of course a completely different story. GPU performance is har…

> A 2080 is about the same performance as a 5060 A 5060 outperforms a 2080 by roughly 20% on most titles, across the board, not cherry-picking for the best results. They are not about the same. > you should be able to run at like 1080p High or better This is disconnected from reality. 1080p low/medium, some games are playable but not enjoyable. Remember, I actually have a 2080, so I'm not just guessing. > GPU perform…

> This is disconnected from reality. 1080p low/medium, some games are playable but not enjoyable.

Is it? Most people care the game is fun which is unrelated to the settings you use (framerates do impact enjoyability though for fast paced games).

Even visually, the difference between settings hasn't been significant for decades at this point.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by monegator »

radley wrote: post #196
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Is there a HN bingo card? Because we always get a top comment for Linux user who tries Mac and decides they prefer Linux.

Meh, i've had a macbook for 15 years, i'm on the league that thinks that snow leopard was the last good OS they made. Still get to use one almost daily at work, but honestly i prefer using windows for developing, if linux is not an option.

My 2012 MPB still lives on running debian (not ideal because some driver quirks, but miles better in terms of responsiveness and doing actual work on it than whatever OSX i could put on it)

I honestly agree with the parent. I'd love a macbook M because the hardware is simply fantastic, but if i can't put debian on it, then i'll pass

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ksec »

WXLCKNO wrote: post #114

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

The M1 MacBook Pro has GB6 ST of 2350, and MT of 8400

The M5 is expected to be ~4150 and MT of ~15500

And nearly 3x speed for SSD.

And yet there is nothing about the new MacBook Pro ( on M4 at least ) that feels faster. I would much rather pay for macOS upgrade that increase performance rather than useless features after features.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by danhau »

krisgenre wrote: post #491
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

Exactly! I too bought the M1 Macbook Air in 2021 because of its great battery life. I wanted a powerful device for hacking on personal projects at home (I use a Dell running Ubuntu at work) but every time I opened it there was always something frustrating about OS X that made it unsuitable for dev stuff (at least for me) * Finder - this is my most hated piece of software. It doesn't display the full file path and no…

Reg finder: you can drag and drop the little folder icon into other apps, which will insert the full path.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by sevenseacat »

kristianp wrote: post #477
brailsafe wrote: post #370

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Meh, I have a Space Black 16" atm, it looks more grey than anything and the smudges are negligible at best. I'm just bored of the lack of variety. The Air is I guess supposed to be the quirky fun computer and the rest are just for "serious" professionals that can only see in grey and silver.

Maybe the rumored low-end mac with an A-series CPU will have some brighter colors.

if they bring out a purple MacBook Pro I will so upgrade I don't care the cost

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Post by Noaidi »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #338
Noaidi wrote: post #303

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I still have 94% of my battery health left on my 2020 M1, and I have all the speed I need as a casual, avergae user.

Crazy good. I only have 87% on mine and I think I got it in 2022 (M1 though)... I wonder if it's because I leave it plugged in so much.

I don’t think it’s the fact that it’s plugged in so much. I used mine plugged in pretty much all the time. It only charges to 80% but every once in a while, I drain it down to zero. I do live in a cooler climate as well and I probably don’t use my computer as much as most people.

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Post by Noaidi »

manquer wrote: post #421
Noaidi wrote: post #303

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I still have 94% of my battery health left on my 2020 M1, and I have all the speed I need as a casual, avergae user.

What magic are you and everyone else doing ? I already have only 92% on my less than year old M4 14inch Pro. I haven't booted up the older M1 recently to check, but I remember it was throwing replace battery warnings well before I got the upgrade and that I think that triggering below 80%.

I don’t use it a lot and I keep it plugged in some majority of the time. It only charges to 80%. I also occasionally, probably every month, drain the battery to zero.

Also, the majority of time it’s been in my van, which is pretty chilly most of the time.

From my understanding, battery health is based on use and environment.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ericmcer »

foxandmouse wrote: post #320
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I thought the same thing when I saw the M5 in the news today. It’s not that I hate macOS 26, hate implies passion.. what I feel is closer to disappointment. The problem is their philosophy. Somewhere along the way, Apple decided users should be protected from themselves. My laptop now feels like a leased car with the hood welded shut. Forget hardware upgrades, I can’t even speed up animations without disabling SIP. Y…

Many people want that though?

I just want shit to work, and most modern devs function many levels above the OS most of the time. Stuff I write is gonna run in a browser, a phone or a containerized cloud env. I don’t care about how configurable my OS is I just want to do my work and sign off.

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