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Re: Helium Browser

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Post by bonoboTP »

godelski wrote: post #494
bonoboTP wrote: post #335

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> so much worse that we'll turn to Google instead Did you know that ~85% of Mozilla Corp's revenue comes from Google?

> Did you know that ~85% of Mozilla Corp's revenue comes from Google? Actually, yes, I did[0] ;) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45369826

So what remains from your argument? It's been shown that Mozilla Corporation is for-profit, donations to the Mozilla Foundation do not go into the pot that pays for Firefox development, and Mozilla Corporation is 85% funded by Google.

So not independent of Google and not a non-profit.

To be clear: I use Firefox, mainly because uBlock origin is blocked on Chrome.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

esafak wrote: post #71
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #61

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Might’ve worth giving it another shot. It’s still somewhat buggy but usually just with UI things. I haven’t had a lot of actual functionality issues in the last couple months of use on iOS or macOS.

If they open sourced it maybe they could get those pesky bugs fixed...

maybe! I hope they do.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by input_sh »

kelvinjps wrote: post #489
input_sh wrote: post #485

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What do you mean? It is on many Androids and every Chromebook. I just checked some website stats I have access to and ~78.6% of iOS users use Safari. On Android on the other hand, ~76% of them use Chrome, ~8.1% uses the Samsung Browser, and there's a marginal amount of people using other manufacturer-provided browsers like Huawei Browser and MIUI (Xiaomi's default). Of course I don't know the exact manufacturer of An…

I meant on windows

Windows itself doesn't matter anymore, on that same website it's at 11.9%.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by NetOpWibby »

ramon156 wrote: post #417
NetOpWibby wrote: post #156

Yeesh, tough crowd in these comments. And yet everyone's excited for new Gmail skins. Anyway. I hope more people take ungoogled-chromium and create new interfaces. It's a shame that Servo's in an unusable state, I'd love to see more tooling around that. I just want someone to give me Opera 12...I suppose that's Vivaldi though.

I still have all my marbles on Ladybird and have no reason to change this. Helium just seems like something that wasn't thought out very far

I’ll concede that it does look rather basic

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by diffrinse »

cush wrote: post #443
MYEUHD wrote: post #7

It's based on ungoogled-chromium and about 3 people are working on it. https://github.com/imputnet/helium

> about 3 people are working on it Hard pass. Arc had an entire dev team with serious investors and couldn't just focus on building a browser

That's because they had serious investors

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by tredre3 »

adsuna wrote: post #218
dialup_sounds wrote: post #94

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+1 for Vivaldi, so many options

tried vivaldi and it felt really bloated and clunky to me, atleast compared to zen, is that just how it is or is it much better after configuration?

Vivaldi is clunky and slow because the entire user interface (tab bar, address bar, title bar if enabled, etc) is a webview rather than native-ish controls like all other browsers.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by rjh29 »

Calavar wrote: post #206
rjh29 wrote: post #185

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Because at the time IE6 was a terrible browser with poor standards support, while Chrome is an excellent browser with leading standards support. It is a gilded cage.

> Chrome is an excellent browser with leading standards support. Google learned it can be "standards compliant" if it submits a draft spec to WHATWG/W3C, and while the comment and revision process is still ongoing, roll out those features in Chrome and start using them in YouTube, Gmail, Google docs, and AMP. Now Firefox and Safari are forced to implement those draft specs as well or users will leave in droves becaus…

If Google websites break on Safari, users will stop using Google before they stop using an iPhone. They will blame Google as well. Safari has refused to implement standards multiple times.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by rjh29 »

pjmlp wrote: post #234
rjh29 wrote: post #185

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Because at the time IE6 was a terrible browser with poor standards support, while Chrome is an excellent browser with leading standards support. It is a gilded cage.

That is revisionism, IE only stagnated because they kind of wipedout the competition, like Chrome is today, and Microsoft withdraw most of the development resources from the team. WPF XAML was originally designed by ex IE team members, and they were the same that a few years later proposed XAML Grid concept as CSS Grid initial design. Many JavaScript devs have to thank their abuse of JavaScript in the browser to XMLH…

Revisionism? I was around then and I implemented plenty of sites in IE. It always had bugs that other browsers did not (and there were more than two engines back then). Maddening lack of support of features that other browsers had implemented, often requiring crazy workarounds. Transparent PNGs didn't even work! Not to mention all the proprietary crap like ActiveX.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by ekianjo »

neves wrote: post #344
Calavar wrote: post #206

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> Chrome is an excellent browser with leading standards support. Google learned it can be "standards compliant" if it submits a draft spec to WHATWG/W3C, and while the comment and revision process is still ongoing, roll out those features in Chrome and start using them in YouTube, Gmail, Google docs, and AMP. Now Firefox and Safari are forced to implement those draft specs as well or users will leave in droves becaus…

Any serious antitrust process would break it in a separate company.

Would that change anything? If you have a separate company who owns a 90% market share browser, they can keep ignoring standards just fine

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by typpilol »

fleebee wrote: post #279
balamatom wrote: post #250

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Tens of millions? That'd be just the palm-greasing before you are allowed to begin!

I think they meant tens of millions of people.

Tens of millions of dollars, lines of code and probably people.

Tens of millions all around

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