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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by jeffhwang »

franktankbank wrote: post #489
roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

Intelligence and wisdom comes from the shores of experience. This idea that you can pull einsteins from the east is stupid.

Didn't Einstein himself literally come from east of the Atlantic Ocean? ;)

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Post by felineflock »

jpadkins wrote: post #123
roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…

Please share the articles you have about the matter.

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Post by sul_tasto »

TriangleEdge wrote: post #214
srameshc wrote: post #104

This is going to kill H1B and immigration from countries like India, China and others for skilled workers. Even though $100K isn't a lot considering the overall investment that goes into hiring a full time employee, employers wouldn't risk that kind of money apart from all the document processing they have to. Maybe big tech will hire a few hundred every year but others won't even bother.

> Maybe big tech will hire a few hundred every year ... A few hundred? All of the tech companies I've worked for are > 50% Indians in the US. Especially in big tech. I could be wrong, but my understanding is there there is not enough software developers in the US, hence the temp workers. Is there expectation that the demand will drop?

There isn’t a shortage, they’re just trying to drive down wages.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ActorNightly »

mister_mort wrote: post #27

If this is truly per application, the companies that try to boost their chances with the lottery by creating multiple applications for the same person are going to get hit hard . Phantom companies that only exist on paper so people can tweak the probabilities are now liabilities. We'll see a rebalancing for sure.

Ah the conservative mindset:

When faced with an arbitrarily small, insignificant problem, in lieu of the status quo, the solution he/she advocates is to completely dismantle the status quo without any form and reason instead of actually focusing on the solution.

I.e punishment over progress.

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Post by ojbyrne »

Seems to me the salient part of this is not being discussed:

“The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines, in the Secretary’s discretion, that the hiring of such aliens to be employed as H-1B specialty occupation workers is in the national interest and does not pose a threat to the security or welfare of the United States.”

More command economy, more opportunity for graft.

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Post by bettercallsalad »

There is also something geopolitically playing here. Trump administration recently threatened India with tariffs and when it didn’t budge, many of its key MAGA voices (Bannon and as such) tweeted asking for the exact same thing he just did.

Recently Trump also met with Indias arch enemy Pakistan’s de facto leader (military chief) in Washington and shortly following that you had Saudi-Pakistan NATO like alliance announced (of course US is major allies for both of those countries). It is interesting because pre-election Trump touted many Indians and even had Modi joining him in one of the largest Indian gatherings. But I guess Trump admin being the wild card it has always been policy wise had a shift. What that leads to is still to be seen.

Recent SCO summit where India and China had some shared alliance pledges can give some hints what’s to come but it’s interesting he didn’t so far do so with Chinese students and had in fact a U turn on allowing 600000 students with their visas as part of the trade negotiations.

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Post by yibg »

afavour wrote: post #423

Putting all else aside: if you’re an H1B holder currently outside the US you must return within 24 hours or you’re on the hook for $100k: https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3l... Unfathomably cruel.

This is announced with so much confusion and ambiguity too. Does it apply to current visa holders? Don't know. How do companies pay the fee? Don't know. Also announced on Friday night to go into effect Sunday midnight. Probably a feature though not a bug.

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Post by peripitea »

reply00r123 wrote: post #372

I ran into a guy making double six figures for like the last 7 years at a known public tech company. He was literally doing the most basic DevOps (Terraform). Nothing fancy. Zero ability to program. No willingness or desire to learn programming. He was an H1B. That blew me away. How is it possible that you have a guy in the US for 10 years who never bothered learning to code doing a 200K / year job. The abuse of H1B…

How exactly is the system being abused by this guy being paid $200k?
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