EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

You should know from history that real human beings won’t cower before this sort of unhinged saber-rattling.

So if that’s the take of your political cohort, you might as well just skip the niceties prepare for the worst. Things will get really, really bad for everyone. Perhaps your kids will get to live in a pleasant country again. Maybe the blood-rendered lesson from our grandparents that didn’t seem to stick to our generation will be able to stick to theirs.

"continued pacification of an increasingly violent 'underserved' social blight"

There is one demographic that is implicated in the vast majority of shootings, comprising far more than the 2% you’re hatefully denigrating.

You can see, per Congress's orders, Trump's EPA would have authored the rules before Biden's term. They were ordered by the PFAS Action Act of 2019.

So while the rules weren't officially enforced during Trump's term, we can deduce that they were drafted and in motion under Andrew Wheeler's EPA, the same one Biden left in office into 2021!

That is to say, Trump's EPA guy wrote them and saw them into enforcement.

That all really is available from the citation I gave. The date is there. You can Google Wheeler's term. You can see when the rules went into effect. You for sure know rules take time to write.

You really didn't think to ask these questions? Honestly, I don't believe you.

You weren't trying to find that you were wrong like I recommended. You were trying to find that the citation by itself could be dead ended to disprove my point if you simply ceased your search.

Think about it for a few minutes and really be honest with yourself. I'm right, not just about you. That's just normal human behavior.

That's okay, but I don't think it's snarky to assume you're also human.

Video clearly states - factories did not care about cleaning it as it was uneconomical. I assume with existing “chemical whack-a-mole” current plant will not care as long as substance is not obviously banned. Secondly, video also states that even if those products are collected - they leach from landfills.

Personally I could bet that trace amounts of chemicals from “manufacturing process” still end up in final product anyways.

> Or only the non-dangerous long chains are in products?

IMHO, we should drop “non-dangerous” as a myth from teflon commercials of the 70s. As also from the video - due to heat you can consume harmful chemicals, even with acute consequences.

PFAS, from my understanding is a group of thousands of chemicals, most of them with no research on harmfulness. Though we know that some of them are directly linked to increasing some cancers or some other illnesses.

> they're not dumping gigatons of this stuff and the ocean is infinitely large in volume.

As per videos - we are talking about ridiculously miniscule amounts. Amounts in terms of couple parts per trillion of PFAS are considered harmful.

There were examples - PFAS is everywhere. Food packaging, hygiene products, tooth floss, fire extinguishers, clothes, kitchen appliances, etc. It’s manufactured all over the globe in multiple factories for seemingly everything.

It gets into the water cycle and trace amounts of PFAS is now found in polar circles and remote mountain tops from rain and snow.

We are exposed to it through water and through the things we use that contains it.

If you look for it in Mariana trench - maybe you won’t find it, but everywhere we do find it and that’s just a fact.

My personal biggest takes are:

- It’s not only c6/c8 that are harmful, there’s GenX and others thar also are and a plethora that haven’t even been tested, and they all are under PFAS umbrella;

- Most of those chemicals accumulate and don’t deteriorate. You get part per quadrillion there, part per trillion there, maybe permille next to a factory or a landfill. Give it 70 years and all animals and humans have >1 ppb of most harmful known PFAS in their blood. When we know that at 30ppb you get double chance of getting kidney cancer (and that’s just one cancer);

- The nature of indestructability is the main problem of cleaning it up. It doesn’t matter if something is “only used in manufacturing process”. It’s already somewhere, in the product, on the packaging, in the water that cleans the factory, in the landfill that collects it;