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U.S. added 911k fewer jobs in year through March than reported earlier

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Post by kamarg »

avgDev wrote: post #343
thatguy0900 wrote: post #146

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The bad news is that we're only one year into the 4 years of bad policy(if we're lucky) and the policy itself will probably continue to get worse

If democrats retake congress some things will change. Congress can stop the tariffs. If democrats don't retake congress we are cooked. This means people are okay with whatever is happening.

> This means people are okay with whatever is happening

Or it means the game has been rigged which is exactly the point of all the gerrymandering going on right now. Tons of people are not okay with what is happening but their power to replace their government representative has been or is currently being effectively stolen from them.

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Post by dgfitz »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #473
dgfitz wrote: post #407

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I currently am this person. What exactly would one do with a 2 million dollar loan? Please don’t say real estate.

Outside of the standard theme park with blackjack and hookers, you could pick up a race horse. Those can start in the low six figures up to tens of millions. Although if you want to race, do not blow the entire amount on just the horse, because the training + food + maintenance is also going to have some hefty bills.

I’ve never been to a theme park with black jack and hookers. I’ll let you sort that out.

Thanks for the help.

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Post by dgfitz »

kstrauser wrote: post #447
dgfitz wrote: post #407

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I currently am this person. What exactly would one do with a 2 million dollar loan? Please don’t say real estate.

That’s all I’ve got. Maybe open a business, I suppose?

I’ll just let it deprecate.

What a mess.

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Post by wredcoll »

hungmung wrote: post #245
wredcoll wrote: post #238

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There's a number of things going on here, but the short of it is that to become the democratic nominee you need to convince a whole bunch of people, including some super delegates. Hillary Clinton did a better job of this than Bernie Sanders. How she did it could probably be the subject of an entire book, but no one has ever come up with any particularly scandalous stories about it so far.

Yes, and the superdelegates, whose job was to make sure people didn't pick the wrong candidate (how democratic of them), picked probably the least popular politician in America at the time. Trump likely would have lost against almost any other candidate, but he had help from the Democratic party, who treated Hil's nom as a coronation.

This is such a silly hill to die on. Hillary clinton won the majority of voters both in the democratic nomination and in the national election.

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Post by wredcoll »

satyrnein wrote: post #480
wredcoll wrote: post #442

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I can't find a chart that is literally just number/year, but the chart at the top of https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/imm... is about the closest I can find. If you look at it, you'll see that, yes, a million or two million or whatever immigrants arrived during the last year biden was in office. However, if you're not trying to use statistics to lie, what you'll also find is that millions came…

I think the graph you linked obscures the issue a bit by showing total immigrant population by year, which would change much more slowly than arrivals by year. I found a graph of arrivals by year here: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-u-s-net-immigration... It certainly seems to be a big increase under Biden, compared to the last 25 years. Anyway, I personally favor immigration, I just don't want to use stati…

I'm not sure what exactly "net immigration" means in specific for these graphs, but according to this chart there were 9.8 million during bush and a predicted 10.4 under biden? This seems... statistically average? The number fluctuates a bit during different decades (and of course it's probably worth remembering that the trump years in this specific graph involved quite a bit of corona virus, whatever that means for these numbers)

My point here is mostly just that america has had lots of immigrants every year for the past 75 or something and there was nothing particularly unique or notable about the recent biden years and the people who claim there is are lying in order to achieve unrelated political goals.

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Post by hungmung »

wredcoll wrote: post #505
hungmung wrote: post #245

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Yes, and the superdelegates, whose job was to make sure people didn't pick the wrong candidate (how democratic of them), picked probably the least popular politician in America at the time. Trump likely would have lost against almost any other candidate, but he had help from the Democratic party, who treated Hil's nom as a coronation.

This is such a silly hill to die on. Hillary clinton won the majority of voters both in the democratic nomination and in the national election.

Yeah she was so popular they had to rig caucuses in her favor, and superdelegates had to defy their constituents.

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Post by satyrnein »

wredcoll wrote: post #506
satyrnein wrote: post #480

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I think the graph you linked obscures the issue a bit by showing total immigrant population by year, which would change much more slowly than arrivals by year. I found a graph of arrivals by year here: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-u-s-net-immigration... It certainly seems to be a big increase under Biden, compared to the last 25 years. Anyway, I personally favor immigration, I just don't want to use stati…

I'm not sure what exactly "net immigration" means in specific for these graphs, but according to this chart there were 9.8 million during bush and a predicted 10.4 under biden? This seems... statistically average? The number fluctuates a bit during different decades (and of course it's probably worth remembering that the trump years in this specific graph involved quite a bit of corona virus, whatever that means for…

Bush was 8 years while Biden was only 4. Biden was much higher on a per year basis than anyone else since 2000, but obviously people believe what they want to believe.

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Post by janalsncm »

mschuster91 wrote: post #478
janalsncm wrote: post #468

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If I sell you a banana for $1, and you sell it back to me for $1, we have just created $2 of GDP. The trick is we need to repeat this process faster and faster over time. Luckily computers also get faster every year due to Moore’s law, so growth shouldn’t be an issue. In fact, every person in the country could take turns with the banana for a brief period of time (provided they quickly sell it to the next person) whi…

Yeah but there is no actual value generated by passing the banana through the population. It's fictional growth, backed by nothing, the same sort of swindle that shitcoin creators do to pump up their shitcoin's value ("wash trading"). There will be no broad prosperity for all from that banana trading, all it serves is to further pump the inflatable house, and it will eventually pop and leave people to realize they've…

I agree. And if landlords decide to hike rents by 10% this year and people pay it, the GDP contribution from rent rises 10% despite the actual quality of the housing stock being worse due to being a year older. So you can see why GDP is a kind of silly metric of productivity or well-being.

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Post by fluorinerocket »

mannyv wrote: post #477

Why doesn't BLS use data directly from Social Security? Everyone with a W2 pays into SS. SS also has everyone's birthdate, so it's easy to bucketize everyone into "can work" and "can't work." They can join that with Medicare/Medicaid data to find people with disabilities. The can compare pay periods to see who's unemployed etc. They can find people on disability with help from Medicare. Why is BLS waiting for state d…

And the IRS. Why is this downvoted?
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