I have GPT Plus, but I cannot get GPT5 even if I click the suggested link in the article. Anyone experiencing it?
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#503Going by the system card at: https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-system-card/ > GPT‑5 is a unified system . . . OK > . . . with a smart and fast model that answers most questions, a deeper reasoning model for harder problems, and a real-time router that quickly decides which model to use based on conversation type, complexity, tool needs, and explicit intent (for example, if you say “think hard about this” in the prompt).…
I know this is just arguing semantics, but wouldn't you call it a unified system since it has a single interface that automatically interacts with different components? It's not a unified model, but it seems correct to call it a unified system.
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#504GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...
with web search, is knowledge cutoff really relevant anymore? Or is this more of a comment on how long it took them to do post-training?
Question: do web search results that GPT kick back get "read" and backpropagated into the model?
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#505Answer in one word: Underwhelming.
Bad data on graphs, demos that would have been impressive a year ago, vibe coding the easiest requests (financial dashboard), running out of talking points while cursor is looping on a bug, marginal benchmark improvements. At least the models are kind of cheaper to run.
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#506It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…
Not only do I think there will not be a winner take all, I think it's very likely that the entire thing will be commoditized. I think it's likely that we will eventually we hit a point of diminishing returns where the performance is good enough and marginal performance improvements aren't worth the high cost. And over time, many models will reach "good enough" levels of performance including models that are open weig…
> Not only do I think there will not be a winner take all, I think it's very likely that the entire thing will be commoditized
This begs the question, why then do AI companies have these insane valuations? Do investorsknow something that we don't?
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#507It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…
If one achieves AGI and releases it everyone has AGI...
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#508GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...
with web search, is knowledge cutoff really relevant anymore? Or is this more of a comment on how long it took them to do post-training?
The biggest issue I can think of is code recommendations with out of date versions of packages. Maybe the quality of code has deteriorated in the past year and scraping github is not as useful to them anymore?
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#509It's pretty good. I asked it to make a piece of warehouse software for storing cobs of corn and it instantly pumped out a prototype. I didn't ask it for anything in particular but it included JSON importing and exporting and all kinds of stuff.
It's going to be absolute chaos. Compsci was already mostly a meme, with people not able to program getting the degree. Now we're going to have generations of people that can't program at all, getting jobs at google.
If you can actually program, you're going to be considered a genius in our new idiocracy world. "But chatgpt said it should work, and chatgpt has what people need"
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#510> Knowledge cut-off is September 30th 2024 for GPT-5 and May 30th 2024 for GPT-5 mini and nano.
That lag! Are humans (training) the bottleneck?