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Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by 12_throw_away » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:21 PM UTC

MrBrobot wrote: post #385

pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

The self-checkout is the one that gets me. I'm paying you money for products, and you both continuously raise prices, and make it less convenient for me to shop there. That is, unless I want to order it for delivery online, and pay an extra fee. Every retailer doesn't need to be Amazon. I don't even want Amazon to be like Amazon anymore. Maybe this is me getting older, or me having worked in technology too long - but…

Self-checkout feels analogous to certain digital goods platforms - at certain times, it makes stealing/piracy the easier and more rational choice than paying for the product. They're both giving consumers great training in how and why to evade shitty corporate security tech!

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by throwanem » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:21 PM UTC

raincom wrote: post #398

dragonwriter wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We (the US) had a very successful, carefully designed system The idea that it was "very successful" basically comes from ignoring things like the Civil War, and the idea that it was "carefully designed" comes from building a fiction around the output and ignoring the process that actually produced it (in no small part aided by people viewing the after-the-drafting sales campaign of the Federalist Papers as if it re…

Interesting to see the Federalist papers as a PR campaign.

How else would you expect someone equipped only from today to recognize the pursuit of rhetoric?

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by fHr » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:22 PM UTC

Truly fucked times to be alive and in the market.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by throwanem » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:23 PM UTC

Workaccount2 wrote: post #283

simianparrot wrote: post #241

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That's something only people of privilege in countries that never experienced what the sickle and hammer does to its people.

Having recently come off a micro-binge of the rise of USSR and it's history, the common theme in keeping a state communist through change of leadership is "The system works great, they just didn't know how to run it properly." Then they also proceeded to just continue the devastation. The fundamental problem of communism is that everyone needs to play along, but the rewards for not playing along grow as more people d…

That is also the fundamental problem of every other system of human governance.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by ncr100 » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:23 PM UTC

Easy solution: reciprocate. Interview AS AN AI YOURSELF.

Duplicate yourself into as many bots as you can afford, and interview at these websites.

This is The Relationship they are establishing with you as an employee -- they expect you talk to an AI, so talk as an AI. Jump that hurdle and provide the software coworker that they desire.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by 9rx » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:24 PM UTC

gchamonlive wrote: post #483

9rx wrote: post #397

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Then why did you claim the argument falls apart, but then proceed to retell the very argument you claim fell apart? If you read the comment in isolation I could at least understand your confusion, but you state that isn't the case.

Because "But if I don't need anything from you — because, say, magical AIs are already giving me everything I could ever hope and dream of — I have no reason to become indebted to you" and "With no need for someone else to do something for him, there is no need for him to sell to anyone else" implies that consumption is purely transactional which I argued against. In other words, AI can't ever give you everything you…

> AI can't ever give you everything you need and hope for.

And magic isn't real. Perhaps the problem isn't that you are reading a comment in isolation, but rather that you aren't reading them at all?

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by kccqzy » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:24 PM UTC

elAhmo wrote: post #467

akudha wrote: post #422

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I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

Those people should be filtered by CV screening, maybe some sort of email exchange before with a few questions to answer to 'ensure' human wants to invest some time in the interview process, rather than just spray and pray.

CV screening doesn't do much. They exaggerate and lie. My current employer has recently started to direct applicants to an online coding exercise. Like leetcode but easier, just to prove they can write code.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by ncr100 » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:25 PM UTC

OnionBlender wrote: post #285

lm28469 wrote: post #120

Two years ago I gave myself five years to get the fuck out of tech and boy am I happy I took this decision. It was slowly starting to look bleak before AI entered the hype cycle but now it's a full blown circus

What are you switching to?

IDK about the user, but it looks to me like HackerNews Enthusiast might be a function of their current role:

user: lm28469 created: January 21, 2019 karma: 14198

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by eddd-ddde » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:25 PM UTC

bobro wrote: post #301

> It does 100 interviews, and it’s going to hand back the best 10 to the hiring manager, and then the human takes over,” he says. Yikes. One thing that's incredibly important about reaching the interview-stage of a job application has been that there is a parity, or even an imbalance favoring the candidate, in human time usage. The company's people (often multiple people at once) have to spend time with the candidate…

But see the other end of the exchange. This is going to allow filtering out people that had no business applying in the first place yet increase the resume noise for the rest of us. For the good role candidates it sounds like this may increase your success rate.

I.e. if 1000 applications get 10 human interviews before, your chances of being picked are minimal, but if 100 get ai interviews, you have a bigger chance of standing out in the sea of fake resumes.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by kccqzy » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:26 PM UTC

gloryjulio wrote: post #480

elAhmo wrote: post #467

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Those people should be filtered by CV screening, maybe some sort of email exchange before with a few questions to answer to 'ensure' human wants to invest some time in the interview process, rather than just spray and pray.

Isn't that the 1st phone round? Most such people would not pass the technical portion of the phone call

This is also why I specifically told the recruiter at my employer to never ask me to do the 1st phone round. Too many under qualified people at this stage and it's depressing to write No Hire again and again.