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Post by askonomm »

omcnoe wrote: post #383
saubeidl wrote: post #371

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Registering a company in Estonia: Three clicks with your e-resident ID, available to anyone. Europe isn't just Germany.

Estonia is specifically known as one of the easiest EU countries to incorporate in. And I'll note that Estonian e-resident ID requires collecting physical card from inside Estonia or a local Estonian embassy. Europe isn't just Germany, but the process is nearly as bad in France and Italy too, and together that's over 50% of EU GDP suffering from intense domestic corporate bureaucracy.

I'll add that in Estonia you can also get married and divorce entirely online with a few clicks. No need to show up anywhere, no need to wait for a long time. More and more countries in EU are getting easier in that sense - Malta has many online-everything facilities, Ireland as well. The big countries such as France, Spain, Italy seem to suffer from corruption and bureaucracy, but smaller countries tend to do a lot better - Scandinavia, Baltic countries, etc. Though of course in most places you have to become a resident, or at the very least be a EU national, as only Estonia has e-residency, as far as I know.

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Post by bluefirebrand »

XorNot wrote: post #404
bluefirebrand wrote: post #293

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An intelligence without emotions would be a psychopath. Empathy is an emotion

High functioning psychopaths can live perfectly ordinary lives regardless.

I'm not worried about the psychopaths in this scenario, I'm worried about their victims

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Post by bluefirebrand »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #332
bluefirebrand wrote: post #293

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An intelligence without emotions would be a psychopath. Empathy is an emotion

Empathy is not an emotion. Empathy is essentially the ability to experience the thoughts and feelings of other minds.

The fact that empathy is not an emotion does not at all change what I'm saying. If you don't experience emotions, then you cannot experience empathy either

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Post by softwaredoug »

Obviously AI is a massive and important area for economic growth. But so is clean energy. And both right now are at an inflection point.

It seems the US is going to thrive with the former but naively stick our heads in the sands with the latter.

We’ll cede economic leadership, and wonder in 20 years what happened as other countries lead in energy. Even worse, the administrations stance will encourage US energy companies to pursue bad strategies, letting them avoid transforming their business. In 10-20 years they'll be bankrupt and the US will probably have to bail them out for strategic reasons.

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Post by AvAn12 »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #491
rs186 wrote: post #449

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Without providing actual support like money , the government saying they encourage open-* AI is no more meaningful than me saying the same thing. In fact, if you open the PDF file and navigate to that section, the content is barely relevant at all.

We're clearly in an era where the US Govt simply doesn't have enough money to throw at everything it wants to encourage, and needs to develop alternate means of incentivizing (or de-disincentivizing) those things. Sensible minimal regulation is one, there may be others. Time to get creative and resourceful.

The budget is the policy, stripped of rhetoric. What any government spends money on IS a full and complete expression of its priorities. The rest is circus.

What increased and decreased in the most recent budget bill? That is the full and complete story.

If no $$ for open source or open weight model development, then that is not a policy priority, despite any nice words to the contrary.

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Post by oaiey »

jonplackett wrote: post #397
HSO wrote: post #334

after the pandemic, i see the pattern everywhere. newsflash: it doesnt matter what you "plan". you wont do it. because you cant. it´s called state incapacity. you´re institutionally incapable. prediction: nothing will follow from this except the low effort stuff (i.e. nothing but speeches and expenses)

It’s a long running problem we (uk, USA, eu) have - trying to solve real world problems with pen and paper policies.

Stupid thing: Sometimes it works ;)

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Post by berbec »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #491
rs186 wrote: post #449

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Without providing actual support like money , the government saying they encourage open-* AI is no more meaningful than me saying the same thing. In fact, if you open the PDF file and navigate to that section, the content is barely relevant at all.

We're clearly in an era where the US Govt simply doesn't have enough money to throw at everything it wants to encourage, and needs to develop alternate means of incentivizing (or de-disincentivizing) those things. Sensible minimal regulation is one, there may be others. Time to get creative and resourceful.

The US has been continuously running a budget deficit for decades (brief blip at the end of Clinton/beginning of W Bush). This is more of an "epoch" than "era". I love the idea of incentives that aren't tax breaks!

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Post by WHA8m »

ChrisRR wrote: post #424
nicce wrote: post #405

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Can a model make so sophisticated propaganda or manipulation that most won’t notice it?

Well just look at the existing propaganda machines online and how annoyingly effective they are

Be specific. "Well just look at " is a horrible way of discussing.

And about your thought: I disagree. When I look at those online places, I see echo chambers, trolls and a lack of critical thinking (on how to properly discuss a topic). Some parts might be artificially accelerated, but I don't see propaganda couldn't be fought. People are just coasting, lazy, group thinking, being entertained and angry.

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Post by coliveira »

Jensson wrote: post #341
coliveira wrote: post #290

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If it doesn't have emotions, that's even worse. No highly intelligent agent will do anything it is asked to do without being compensated in some way.

> No highly intelligent agent will do anything it is asked to do without being compensated in some way. That isn't true, people do things for others all the time any form of explicit or implicit compensation, they don't even believe in a God so not even that, they still help others for no gain. We can program an AI to be exactly like that, just being happy from helping others. But if you believe humans are all that s…

I'm not the one making the IA, so keep the insults for you. But I'm pretty sure that the companies (making it for profit only) are really controlled by sad individuals that only do things for money.

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Post by jsnider3 »

LorenDB wrote: post #60

> Encourage Open-Source and Open-Weight AI It's good to see this, especially since they acknowledge that open weights is not equal to open source.

No, it's bad, since we will soon reach a point where AI models are major security risks and we can't get rid of an AI after we open-source it.
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