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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by ben_w »

ta1243 wrote: post #384
King-Aaron wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They want a reason to remove the current Californian government, as well as manufacturing a reason to enact emergency powers which can 'help' Trump push for a third term. They have been discussing this since before the election.

Trump is hardly a bastion of health, you think he'll still be around when he's 82?

A better question is, does he think he'll still be around?

I mean, this is a guy who put out a press release about his own health where everyone could tell he was lying because it included his own height and they just found pictures of him standing next to other people who were supposed to be the same height or shorter.

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Post by sam345 »

pwarner wrote: post #487
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what Canada mostly does and it’s super effective, the problem is that the people who employ illegal immigrants: farmers, construction contractors, hotel owners, etc…belong to the same party pushing against illegal immigration, they would basically be punishing themselves, so it isn’t going to happen.

Exactly The aggressive raids aren't in Florida or Texas, or even California farm county, they're targeting urban areas, and getting the intended headlines.

Not true.. they are doing the raids elsewhere including Texas. Florida cracked down on the state level on businessrs a year ago so not as much of a problem as far as I understand.

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Post by Thorrez »

thrawa8387336 wrote: post #476
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

There would be turbo-inflation

Why?

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Post by technothrasher »

pvdebbe wrote: post #467

Question from outsider: if a Marine uses lethal force against a civilian in this case, in what court will he be tried?

Outside of military installations, a member of the US military may be subject to prosecution for any crimes committed under both civilian criminal law and the UCMJ. DUI is the most common scenario for this.

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Post by alexpotato »

whyenot wrote: post #177

I wish Kevin Drum were still here. I often didn't agree with his politics, but his blog posts were always insightful, and I wonder what he would say about our current situation.

I didn't realize he had passed away.

His posts were always insightful and it is indeed sad that he is no longer with us.

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Post by bix6 »

Amezarak wrote: post #442
ivape wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s interesting ICE raided the outside of a Home Depot. Like, of all the immigrants, the immigrants that stand outside of Home Depot do the hardest physical labor. There’s no heart to what’s going on.

This is exactly where they should raid. I have a lot of friends and family that work construction. Illegal immigration has absolutely destroyed the construction labor market by undercutting wages. People should be a fair wage for their work. We shouldn't promote pushing wages down by importing more people, especially desperate people.

Maybe you should take a look at what Private Equity has done to construction before blaming day laborers at Home Depot.

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Post by sam345 »

Exactly why is this HN appropriate? Nothing that is not already in the papers and nothing particularly interesting to the HN crowd per guidelines. I came here for HN and I got reddit.

"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. "

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

Thorrez wrote: post #503
thrawa8387336 wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would be turbo-inflation

Why?

Because cheap immigrant labor is the backbone of this country in many ways, especially when it comes to harvesting and processing our food supply. They could stop immigration tomorrow if they wanted to. $10,000 per person per day fine to agriculture companies. They don't want to. They are hate-filled people who want the poorest most vulnerable people to suffer. Just like Jesus would have wanted.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #480
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #417

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Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.

They were slow to let off the gas pedal after the labour shortages during COVID. There's been a massive swing in the other direction now.

What kind of labor shortages are we talking about? Isn't "muh labor shortage" just corporate propaganda for importing more cheap labor to drive down wages and increase rents?

Also, isn't it completely reckless to import a lot more people in a short timespan, without the necessary housing and infrastructure (doctors, nurses, teachers, etc) to support them in the first place?

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