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El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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>Now the businesses are free to accept it or not instead of being required to accept it. That's all. Right, so it's no longer legal tender.

Legal tender does not have to be a mandatory means of exchange.

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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If you need to go to the IMF for a loan of ~3% of your GDP to mitigate the risks associated with Bitcoin, well, that's a pretty good sign that adopting Bitcoin as legal tender was a pretty disastrous failure.

What are you talking about? Their Bitcoin holdings more than doubled in value.

Yeah, i really dislike bitcoin, but have to admit, it has been a very profitable investment for a lot of people (and still hasn't completely crashed like expected)...

... although as a form of currency (as opposed to an investment) for El Salvador, it looks like it's a failure

Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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The trouble is, it needs to be more than that if it is to survive. Since inception, mining has mostly been subsidized by new bitcoin, which is capped by design (and about 95% distributed). Satoshi’s paper assumed that transaction costs would make up for the exponentially declining subsidy, but that hasn’t really happened since it never lived up to his “digital cash” vision.

I'm so curious what will happen as mining approaches the asymptote. When the mining rewards become more and more rare and if people aren't incentivizing the network with a lot of transactions, will transaction times just get slower and slower until it becomes a stranded asset?

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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That's heavy editorializing: El Salvador keeps buying the Bitcoin for its strategic reserve. Businesses and citizens can keep using it. But for getting an IMF loan, IMF (which, to put it mildly, doesn't like Bitcoin) required the end to Bitcoin legal tender status. Now the businesses are free to accept it or not instead of being required to accept it. That's all. The government plans to keep buying and using it.

Why do they need an IMF loan? (that's typically a sign of the economy not doing great)

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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That's heavy editorializing: El Salvador keeps buying the Bitcoin for its strategic reserve. Businesses and citizens can keep using it. But for getting an IMF loan, IMF (which, to put it mildly, doesn't like Bitcoin) required the end to Bitcoin legal tender status. Now the businesses are free to accept it or not instead of being required to accept it. That's all. The government plans to keep buying and using it.

Why does the IMF care what denomination they use domestically?

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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They care about the economic stability of a country they make loans to. Their loans often come with conditions about how the government can run fiscal or trade policy. I don't know if that is good or bad but I have heard smart economists argue both sides.

Sounds reasonable. Which countries got better after the IMF got involved?

There's a lot of information about the IMF online.

Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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> it is also against the conservative status quo thinking of how to deal with crime How are tough on crime policies "against the conservative status quo"?

The people who are seen to be the experts and authorities in social theory and practice in their ivory towers in the UN and academia cling to their outdated and falsified ideas of what works and what doesn't and refuse to change or accept new things. Firstly, they are adamant that "tough on crime" policies do not work, they were adamant that Buekele's reforms would not work. Now sure there are probably ways they may…

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Re: El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender

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I'd be surprised if DPRK doesn't already have access to the wallet and is just waiting to get the most out of it.

I highly doubt their BTC reserve is connected to the internet.

It's just a private key. You don't "connect" private keys to the Internet. You just have poor processes keeping it hidden while not losing it. I'm surprised you think El Salvador can do that.
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