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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by UltraSane »

dabinat wrote: post #380
jbarrow wrote: post #288

The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).

This is the #1 reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2080 Ti. Using my laser printer while my computer is on (even if it’s idle) already makes my UPS freak out. But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the highe…

Why would you have your laser printer connected to your UPS?

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Post by UltraSane »

Reason077 wrote: post #404
dabinat wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the #1 reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2080 Ti. Using my laser printer while my computer is on (even if it’s idle) already makes my UPS freak out. But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the highe…

Does a laser printer need to be connected to a UPS?

no

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by bob1029 »

Reason077 wrote: post #404
dabinat wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the #1 reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2080 Ti. Using my laser printer while my computer is on (even if it’s idle) already makes my UPS freak out. But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the highe…

Does a laser printer need to be connected to a UPS?

I would be careful connecting laser printers to consumer UPS products. On paper all the numbers may line up, but I don't know why you'd want to if you could otherwise avoid it.

If the printer causes your UPS to trip when merely sharing the circuit, imagine the impact to the semiconductors and other active elements when connected as a protected load.

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iwontberude wrote: post #392
dabinat wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the #1 reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2080 Ti. Using my laser printer while my computer is on (even if it’s idle) already makes my UPS freak out. But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the highe…

That’s because you have a Brother laser printer which charges its capacitors in the least graceful way possible.

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Post by bob1029 »

lukevp wrote: post #482
iwontberude wrote: post #392

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That’s because you have a Brother laser printer which charges its capacitors in the least graceful way possible.

This happens with my Samsung laser printer too, is it not all laser printers?

It's mostly the fuser that is sucking down all the power. In some models, it will flip on and off very quickly to provide a fast warm up (low thermal mass). You can often observe the impact of this in the lights flickering.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by SkyMarshal »

epolanski wrote: post #353
marricks wrote: post #347

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I got into desktop gaming at the 970 and the common wisdom (to me at least, maybe I was silly) was I could get away with a lower wattage power supply and use it in future generations cause everything would keep getting more efficient. Hah...

Yeah, do like me, I lower settings from "ultra hardcore" to "high" and keep living fine on a 3060 at 1440p for another few gens. I'm not buying GPUs that expensive nor energy consuming, no chance. In any case I think Maxwell/Pascal efficiency won't be seen anymore, with those RT cores you get more energy draw, can't get around that.

I've actually reversed my GPU buying logic from the old days. I used to buy the most powerful bleeding edge GPU I could afford. Now I buy the minimum viable one for the games I play, and only bother to upgrade if a new game requires a higher minimum viable GPU spec. Also I generally favor gameplay over graphics, which makes this strategy viable.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by bitmasher9 »

UltraSane wrote: post #492
bitmasher9 wrote: post #481

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Rasterizing results in better graphics quality than DLSS if compute is not a limiting factor. They are trying to do an apples to oranges comparison by comparing the FPS of standard rendering to upscaled images. I use DLSS type tech, but you lose a lot of fine details with it. Far away text looks blurry, textures aren’t as rich, and lines between individual models lose their sharpness. Also, if you’re spending $2000 f…

DLSS 4 uses a completely new model with twice as many parameters and seems to be a big improvement.

I hope so, because it looks like 8k traditional rendering won’t be an option for this decade.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by [deleted] »

iwontberude wrote: post #392
dabinat wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the #1 reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2080 Ti. Using my laser printer while my computer is on (even if it’s idle) already makes my UPS freak out. But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the highe…

That’s because you have a Brother laser printer which charges its capacitors in the least graceful way possible.

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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by jiggawatts »

buildbot wrote: post #303
christkv wrote: post #153

575W TDP for the 5090. A buddy has 3x 4090 in a machine with a 32 core AMD cpu must be putting out close to 2000W of heat at peak if he switched to 5090. Uff

I have a very similar setup, 3x4090s. Depending on the model I’m training, the GPUs use anywhere from 100-400 watts, but don’t get much slower when power limited to say, 250w. So they could power limit the 5090s if they want and get pretty decent performance most likely. The cat loves laying/basking on it when it’s putting out 1400w in 400w mode though, so I leave it turned up most of the time! (200w for the cpu)

May I ask what you’re training? And why not just rent GPUs in some cloud?
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