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Google's Results Are Infested, Open AI Is Using Their Playbook from the 2000s

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I didn't paraphrase, I put the exact quote[1] I had copied earlier from goodreads in google and got garbage. I use only local LLM's, So if anyone has Open AI's search tools give it a shot. [1] "Few hundred years of Western society that we have lost the ability to memorise vast amounts of information." ― Lynne Kelly, Memory Craft: Improve your memory using the most powerful methods from around the world

I tried with OpenAI’s o1 model and it came up with the right answer on the second try: https://chatgpt.com/share/6774a930-1e44-8013-8591-424c3b58d8...

Very interesting, Does o1 have a cutoff date for knowlege or does it index HN in realtime?

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Google became an asset of the government. By selecting what you see they control what you think, what you buy who you vote for, similar to legacy media. Open AI has started on day one with that goal.

This conspiracy theory is broken, because governments around the world have been struggling more than previously to get reelected. It might be that Google has been used to "select what you see so they control what you think, what you buy who you vote for, similar to legacy media", but they're not doing so under the control of government.

This was proven in the Twitter files. The same was happening in Facebook and Google.

There also independant research that prove this. hard to Google ;)

Basicaly it's proven that just switching the autocomplete when you search Trump or Kamala can sway the votes of undecided by huge margin.

The seek those and switch the suggestion were it matter.

They also incite people to go vote depending on the choice and buch of other dirty tricks.

You are right that it no longer work. In the end truth will always win because it connect to reality. Having just X switching to truth will swarm the world.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This conspiracy theory is broken, because governments around the world have been struggling more than previously to get reelected. It might be that Google has been used to "select what you see so they control what you think, what you buy who you vote for, similar to legacy media", but they're not doing so under the control of government.

This was proven in the Twitter files. The same was happening in Facebook and Google. There also independant research that prove this. hard to Google ;) Basicaly it's proven that just switching the autocomplete when you search Trump or Kamala can sway the votes of undecided by huge margin. The seek those and switch the suggestion were it matter. They also incite people to go vote depending on the choice and buch of ot…

watch this is you are still unaware of the totalitarian machine.

https://youtu.be/ye8MOfxD5nU

Re: Google's Results Are Infested, Open AI Is Using Their Playbook from the 2000s

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It's intentional. https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/ Traditional search still works. Ask anyone who uses kagi. Google makes more money (for now) with garbage search, so they're optimizing for garbage. Thing is, garbage in, garage out, and it will eventually catch up with them (might already have given the disparity between Gemini and Claude/cgpt)

As an aside, I tried to love ddg before using kagi but I'd always revert to google with !g and end up not finding anything because google has sucked for the past 5 years I've been using kagi and I've noticed that the only time I ever switch to google is for things that are truly local to where I am at the moment (restaurants, etc..). Kagi is really great. I've also been testing perplexity and I'm not that convinced y…

This is very similar to my experiments, and something I was mulling over enough when I wrote the original comment, that I wrote a rant about it:

https://pdx.su/blog/2024-12-29-using-kagi-for-a-bit-over-a-y...

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