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Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on the Mac? Certainly, most AAA titles do not. >Compared to the most popular 24-inch all-in-one PC with the latest Intel Core 7 processor, the new iMac is up to 4.5x faster. You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair…

Games I play on my M1 Macbook Air:

- BG3

- CIV

- Stardew Valley

- Football Manager

- Subnautica

- XCOM

- ARMA 3

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Since this thread seems to be about niche asks for pro users, despite the product being targeted towards casual users who want an easy out of the box experience, I'll add my own to the mix. I'd love a bigger/better screen on these, specifically an ultrawide variety. An iMac Pro with an 8k ultrawide would be a near-instant purchase for me. I find the ultrawide form factor so good for productivity. I love the apple "it…

Using a large 8K display for productivity is underrated. I wrote a blog post about my experience: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/y2023m12d15/

Why not the 55" 8K? Also the checkerboard is because you're not using variable refresh rate. You need to turn on game mode for the TV and VRR in OS display setting.

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I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

schools are a big one. If they are going to buy macs, being all in one the school IT doesn't have to worry about a separate monitor to troubleshoot problems with.

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I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

The iMacs very much aren't their main seller. A couple of key demographics use it though: * Families with a shared computer in a common room. Super simple to setup, no fiddling, low price. In the video Apple showcased this use case. My parents have an M3 imac and it works great. They had their last iMac for ten years. * Businesses buy these for reception areas and customers see the Apple logo on the back. Easy soluti…

OK, I want to partly take back my comment. The business use case is brilliant.

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I’ve been using an M1 iMac as my main home computer (with 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD) and have zero reason to upgrade. I’ve loved it. Exactly what I need, though I offload a lot of home server type tasks to a big tower PC, including messing with local AI stuff. BUT a new hockey puck Mac mini that shared a screen with my gaming PC would be a nice space-saver. If only the studio display could switch inputs—using macOS on a cu…

There are Thunderbolt 4 KVMs now (can't speak to any myself, but they exist!). DSC will give you quite a bit of spare bandwidth with the Studio Display.

I've been using the Sabrent one for a year or so. It's worked quite reliably once I got the cables sorted. I was unintentionally using one TB3 cable in the mix, and that made it pretty flakey. It has been pretty solid since swapping that for a TB4 cable.

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Using a large 8K display for productivity is underrated. I wrote a blog post about my experience: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/y2023m12d15/

Why not the 55" 8K? Also the checkerboard is because you're not using variable refresh rate. You need to turn on game mode for the TV and VRR in OS display setting.

I can't find any. The newer QN800D or whatever aren't available in 55". And they don't make the QN700B anymore.

EDIT: Also wow I've been using this QN800A for like 3 years with the checkerboard problem without realizing that enabling variable refresh rate solves the problem. Thanks for the pro tip!!!

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For a decade. That works out to $10 a month. Not a bad deal.

It's still a bad deal.

I've provided my father (82 years, living 500km away from me) with hand-me-downs Mac laptops since 2009: from the initial Macbook Core Duo up to a the most recent M2 Air. He does web browsing and frequent FaceTime calls with me just for checking out how they are. Those little laptops last him until the battery dies.

He could very well be using Windows with a cheaper laptop, but I consider the amount of support hours that I've saved to more than compensate for that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not the 55" 8K? Also the checkerboard is because you're not using variable refresh rate. You need to turn on game mode for the TV and VRR in OS display setting.

I can't find any. The newer QN800D or whatever aren't available in 55". And they don't make the QN700B anymore. EDIT: Also wow I've been using this QN800A for like 3 years with the checkerboard problem without realizing that enabling variable refresh rate solves the problem. Thanks for the pro tip!!!

I have the QN700B. It seems almost small to me at this point. Can you get VRR to work on linux?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I replace my computers before I ever feel a need to upgrade them. Computers are fast and performant for a long time now (4+ years, especially for non-professional use). And as someone who works with computers all day long, I never ever want to open one up unless I build one from scratch and want a personal project.

What about the screen?

Once upon a time I'd use the same monitor for several generations of desktop. But lately monitors feel like they're advancing more quickly and computers more slowly such that I end up replacing them after about ten years.

I personally appreciate not having to do both at the same time, but at least for me it has reduced that particular criticism against all-in-ones.

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