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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by visarga »

ben_w wrote: post #309
aflukasz wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they don't secure their position as #1 Chatbot I think they will eventually become #2, then #3, etc. But can they do it at all? It's not like they are like early Google vs other search engines.

At the moment this feels like a x10 speed run on the browser wars: lots of competitors very quickly churning who is "best" according to some metric, stuff getting baked into operating systems, freely licensed models. How do you make money off a web browser, to justify the development costs? And what does that look like in an LLM?

LLMs are a more flexible platform than browsers. They can be prompted, finetuned or run locally. Even if a company wants to make their base model spit ads, it won't fly.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by satvikpendem »

AndyKelley wrote: post #198
atomic128 wrote: post #185

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Fortunes are made owning companies that sell harmful products. Domino's Pizza, Monster Energy Drink, etc. Fortunes will be made selling electricity to people who develop serious cognitive dependence on LLMs. There is no need for you to participate in the profits. I respect your life choices and I wish you well.

I don't respect your life choices and I wish you failure.

I had to laugh at their comments too. Well, at least they're being cynically honest.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by justinbaker84 »

jen729w wrote: post #473
epolanski wrote: post #407

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

I'm a solo business owner who knows enough JS/TS/HTML/CSS to get by -- my product is a website full of information -- but I've never been 'a developer'. ChatGPT et. al. is a miraculous boost to my productivity. This morning I needed a function to iterate over some JSON and do stuff with it. Fairly mundane, and I could have written it myself. Doing so would have been boring, routine, and would have taken me at least a…

I have had a similar experience. I build wordpress websites and ChatGPT has allowed me to extend their functionality a great deal without needing to learn how to code PHP.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by latentsea »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #452
epolanski wrote: post #407

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

Regulating either developer credentials (ie are you certified for this type of solution) or outputs (formal validation of each release) comes to mind. It’s gonna sound like gatekeeping but letting people without any experience to build impactful software is risky.

Even letting people with experience is risky.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by genericacct »

jen729w wrote: post #473
epolanski wrote: post #407

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

I'm a solo business owner who knows enough JS/TS/HTML/CSS to get by -- my product is a website full of information -- but I've never been 'a developer'. ChatGPT et. al. is a miraculous boost to my productivity. This morning I needed a function to iterate over some JSON and do stuff with it. Fairly mundane, and I could have written it myself. Doing so would have been boring, routine, and would have taken me at least a…

it needs to be said that web dev is by far the area in which LLMs are more versed , i suppose due to the incredible amount of training data available. Other languages produce more allucinations for now.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by bbu »

maxwell wrote: post #453
b212 wrote: post #418

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With AGI you won’t need most of the human race anymore, developers are just the tip of the iceberg. Luckily ChatGPT and the rest have nothing to do with an AI not to mention AGI.

Won't need most of humanity wasting time gatekeeping and toiling, to instead focus on study and leisure.

Increased productivity has to more, not less toiling in the last 50 or so years. This is not gonna be different with AGI (if it ever happens). Some people will get very rich while the rest is still gonna work just as much as they are now. The jobs just gonna suck even more.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by sureglymop »

joshstrange wrote: post #216

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

So, I think that with the agent frameworks that exist now, that wouldn't be very hard to realize. What's needed though would be a full API for the editor that can be tapped into.

Ironically, for creating that, these new age code editor startups would probably have more luck with neovim and it's extensive lua API rather than with vs code. (Of course, the idea with using a vs code fork is about capturing the market share it has).

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Post by CGamesPlay »

I'd love a version of this that worked with files directly on my local system. Aider is close, but it's too integrated with git for simple one-off scripts, which is a use case where I find GPT-generated code shines.

Is there an open source version of this and/or Claude Artifacts, yet?

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