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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by soneca »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> ”Pretty much they buy the new one when the battery of their current one runs bad, typically every 3-4 years.”

I am exactly like this. But I am also use it as an opportunity to upgrade the hardware.

For some time it was memory, although now I am pretty done for 256gb. I don’t need more. Recently it was the new processor+camera. I am not big into photography, but I like to take pictures. And I like them to look great, focused, even with bad light, without doing any setting myself (cause I am ignorant how to do it). Just regular picture of trips, or night with friends. I like the 2x and 0.5x zoom a lot also.

It is also nice for the new updated apps I use to run fast. My 4 yo iPhone SE not only had a bad battery, but it was very slow already.

And, occasionally, some gimmick is actually useful to me, like the notch. I turn off notifications of almost every app, including Uber and food delivery. For those the in-screen info in the notch is very useful.

I’ll probably only buy the iPhone 18 next, but it will be nice have the 5x zoom (maybe more by then) at the least.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jacobn »

So a lot of Apple Intelligence is still vaporware then?

From [1] "Additional Apple Intelligence features will roll out later this year and in the months following", i.e. later in 2024 and then in 2025, and the not-available-at-launch features appear to be the stronger ones, e.g. ChatGPT integration?

Any word on improving the dictate-to-text keyboard feature? I could only find "In the Notes and Phone apps, users can also record, transcribe, and summarize audio", but that's different.

[1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/09/apple-debuts-iphone-1...

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by tpmoney »

FireBeyond wrote: post #322
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> Apple makes an excellent product Contrarian opinion on the AirPods. Apple says that they think the new noise cancellation "auto adjust" is better on the "human" side of things, and the social - they showed an interaction where the barista started talking to the wearer, and the AirPods adjusted so the barista could be heard. To me, that's not social, I think it's actually anti-social. It moves the onus onto anyone w…

> It really wouldn't kill you to remove an airpod (or any headphone) if you are in public initiating interactions with someone, for just a few moments.

Actually, I've found this creates more social friction, not less. I spent a while listening to some books while working, and originally had noise canceling turned on. Every time someone came over to talk about something, whether I paused and turned noise canceling off or removed the ear pieces, there was always an awkward moment for the person talking to me while they had to stop what they were starting to say, wait for me and then usually apologize for interrupting. It felt extremely anti-social, and I think a part of that is that headphones were for a very long time considered anti-social and the act of removing them was often a signal that someone was interrupting you (and that you didn't really want to be interrupted). But when you're using headphones in a shared space, it's usually less about not wanting to be interrupted and more being considerate that not everyone wants to listen to the same things you're listening to.

Eventually I left them in transparency mode and kept the volume low enough that I could carry on a conversation over it, and could subtly reduce the volume while still holding a conversation. No more awkward pausing and restarting, no more apologies and the "hardest" thing I have to do is maybe rewind a bit after I'm done with the conversation. So much less anti-social feeling all around.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by thom »

winstonp wrote: post #484
thom wrote: post #452

Does the new camera button thingy happen to be a fingerprint scanner as well? I live in a constant state of rage with Face ID, longing for my iPhone 8 Plus with its Home button and the ability to pay for things in one fluid motion.

It's not. Your problems with Face ID seem to be of a super minority of users -- 99% of people I know have no problems with it.

It’s not a blocker, just that it’s strictly more work, every single time.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by soneca »

user3939382 wrote: post #350
arcticbull wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

Assuming those prices are correct and the procedure is that convenient, it doesn't practically exist if most people aren't aware of it. From my casual observations most people suffer with bad batteries until buying a new model.

The battery gets bad after 4 years. That’s usually the moment I want to buy a new phone already, why invest $99 in a phone that I won’t be using in a year? Better deal with a bad battery for a few months or a year, then already go on and buy a new one.

I never heard of someone who bought a new phone _solely_ for a new battery

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by leptons »

stronglikedan wrote: post #262
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

Apple rarely ever innovates, so it's not surprising these new features seem underwhelming. What Apple does best is to perfect (others') existing ideas so that they work more much more reliably than the competition. The number one pain point of technology today is that hardly any of it consistently works correctly more than 95% of the time. But when Apple releases a feature, it works 99% of the time instead. That's th…

>But when Apple releases a feature, it works 99% of the time instead.

"You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs

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Post by mattnewton »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

People like new and shiny things even if they don’t use any of the shiny features. There is a contingent buying new cars every decade- those people are buying iPhones every other year. Apple may not sell the most phones but they do make the most money selling phones.

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Post by thom »

usaphp wrote: post #491
thom wrote: post #452

Does the new camera button thingy happen to be a fingerprint scanner as well? I live in a constant state of rage with Face ID, longing for my iPhone 8 Plus with its Home button and the ability to pay for things in one fluid motion.

How is using face id for payments not a fluid motion? Double click on the side button and it’s ON to make payments, no need to do anything else. While on Touch ID you have to first initiate the payment and then unlock with a finger (2 steps)?

With Face ID you have to take your phone out, double click, then hold it up to your face and wait for it to work, then hold it out to do a contactless payment. With Touch ID you just take your phone out of your pocket with your thumb on the home button and pay instantly (you don’t have to initiate anything).
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