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No DVD or BD menu support as I've tried now
This should let you play a VIDEO_TS folder, ISO, or an actual disc… with the caveat that you need to figure out the coordinates of the menu yourself by using an external tool.
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Wow those answers are indeed funny. I agree that as an OSS dev/maintainer, it's easy to fall on the vice of over-generalization and crusade for the perfect solution, and it feels that's exactly what happened there. > this feature is algorithmically impossible > You're just looking at one specific video, not the general problem. > is not generally possible. As a fellow multimedia dev, man, who cares? Sometimes we forg…
Disagree! VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever. That is no easy task. Video container standards are utterly perverse, and seem to delight in stomping over even the most innocent intuitions about what you would expect to find in a stream of bits that purports to contain "video". They often refuse…
It's also not like only some very nieche professional-only formats will have the required indexes. No, 99.99% of videos support accurate-enough seeking because that's something most people expect to be able to do with their video files.
You are also making it sound like VLC is the only player that has managed to support a wide range of formats when there are countless of ffmpeg-based players that manage to do that, like the subject of this post.
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You speak as if VLC is the pinnacle of video player technology. I know it is an open source darling, but it's been a buggy, overengineered mess since forever, which is why many use alternatives as mpv, IINA when I used macOS, SMplayer, etc. On fact, with all due respect, I never understood why VLC was so widely praised. It is the only player to stutter for me on Windows, to get lost in its settings page, to have a te…
> On fact, with all due respect, I never understood why VLC was so widely praised. It's praised because it "plays everything." It developed this reputation in an era when even average people were installing numerous DirectShow "codec packs" (often of dubious pedigree) in an often futile effort to "play that thing I just downloaded" from the P2P file sharing network du jour. For a number of reasons, installing a bunch…
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You speak as if VLC is the pinnacle of video player technology. I know it is an open source darling, but it's been a buggy, overengineered mess since forever, which is why many use alternatives as mpv, IINA when I used macOS, SMplayer, etc. On fact, with all due respect, I never understood why VLC was so widely praised. It is the only player to stutter for me on Windows, to get lost in its settings page, to have a te…
VLC is *amazing* at its design purpose: being a rock solid video player. The GUI, the UX, and other things can be criticized, but I dare you to find another video player that will play just about *anything*, and without having to install external codec separately with weird licence. You can throw at it a broken mp4 file, a https url with basic auth, a weirdly encoded video, a DVD full of scratches, etc, chances are V…
MPV? You know, the subject of this post we are commenting on?
Or literally any FFMPEG-based player.
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> Because it's the one you can reasonably suggest to all your utterly nontechnical friends and relatives I concurr.- PS. On a related tangent the amount of unpaid "support" tech knowledgeable individuals are doing for (particularly) FAANG is enormous.-
> PS. On a related tangent the amount of unpaid "support" tech knowledgeable individuals are doing for (particularly) FAANG is enormous.- Which is exactly the same for every profession. If you have a plumber friend and have issues with plumbing, who you call first, a random contractor or your friend? Replace "plumber/plumbing" with any profession and the answer is usually the same, you call your friend first, at leas…
If however your tech friends help you with Windows/Android/Apple issues, MS/Google/etc. still get paid and save up on support costs.
These two situations aren't even remotely comparable.
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You speak as if VLC is the pinnacle of video player technology. I know it is an open source darling, but it's been a buggy, overengineered mess since forever, which is why many use alternatives as mpv, IINA when I used macOS, SMplayer, etc. On fact, with all due respect, I never understood why VLC was so widely praised. It is the only player to stutter for me on Windows, to get lost in its settings page, to have a te…
I see VLC as the swiss army knife that can play anything you throw at it, no matter how weird. I see mpv as a more streamlined, less abstract implementation that supports many fewer options, but can contain special-case code paths for hardware acceleration, for example. Hardware-accelerated playback on my Raspberry Pi 3 works out of the box with mpv but requires some special trick or doesn't work at all in vlc. I ass…
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> PS. On a related tangent the amount of unpaid "support" tech knowledgeable individuals are doing for (particularly) FAANG is enormous.- Which is exactly the same for every profession. If you have a plumber friend and have issues with plumbing, who you call first, a random contractor or your friend? Replace "plumber/plumbing" with any profession and the answer is usually the same, you call your friend first, at leas…
The difference is that if your plumber friend helps you out with your toilet, Big Plumbing Inc does not get your business. If however your tech friends help you with Windows/Android/Apple issues, MS/Google/etc. still get paid and save up on support costs. These two situations aren't even remotely comparable.
This was kind of like what I was getting at: Kind of wondering what the total savings for FAANG on support costs would amount to, factoring in all this "offloaded" support that they hand off to their own customers (or, affiliated tech-savvy individuals).-
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If you say "no, we're not pursuing this feature because it's impossible" and users have used other software that implements the feature to a reasonable degree of functionality, you're not doing yourself any favours in terms of shutting down demands. You'd be better off either not giving a reason at all, or giving reasons that are clearer to people who aren't as knowledgable.
Reasons are actually stated, they explained it is not feasible for the general case. Once the devs have made clear they don’t plan to do exceptions (as other softwares do) then users should accept it and move on instead of keep harassing volunteers.
VLC developers are of course free to reject any feature request but if they do it by bullshitting their users (and that includes tacking on additional requirements that no user actually needs like perfect support for all formats under the sun) then they will be rightfully called out for it. Then throwing a tantrum and citing CoC violations is not going to improve things.
It's their project so ultimately they get to choose to run it into the ground but this kind of behavior is not something I want to support as a user os I will stay away from VLC which includes not making helpful bug reports and not donating.
I use it to inspect video frames by frames, particularly being able to go back one frame. VLC doesn't support it, this thread about the feature is hilarious https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=120627
- Great example of letting perfect be the enemy of good.
- Hilarious example of a developer making claims of what users want while ignoring the users in front of him.
- Shows how CoCs can be and often end up being used in toxic ways.
Is Remi the sole active developer or why did no other dev chime in to defuse the discussion?
I'm all for open source projects sticking to their vision and standing up to unreasonable user demands but it really is in your own best interest as a developer to learn to communicate effectively - and keep an open mind for feature requests that sound unreasonable to you and first make sure if you understand what is being asked for.
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"I'll be waiting for your patch. Surely you're not as lazy and incompetent as the existing volunteer developers."- Rémi Denis-Courmont I see Rémi Denis-Courmont's arrogant attitude and disrespect for users and developers hasn't improved in all these years. And neither has VLC's spectacularly awful UI. Coincidence, or cause and effect? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13573499 DonHopkins on Feb 5, 2017 | parent |…
You've got some very confused beliefs about what mkv is and why it's used. Mkv is a container, not a codec, which is most often used to store lossy video and audio tracks. It can store lossless tracks too, but that is uncommon in practice. Other popular containers, such as mp4 (e.g. MPEG-4 Part 14), can also store lossless tracks. The biggest reason anime people prefer mkv to mp4 is because mkv supports the ASS/SSA s…