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Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by namaria »

dgb23 wrote: post #157
namaria wrote: post #124

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Are there any documented examples of societies where "magics", "shamans" or "wizards" were at the top of the hierarchy? I gotta say, I'm an avid reader of Ancient History and Anthropology and the closest I can think of is the Priest-Kings of Sumeria and your garden variety theocracy and the latter is much more of a priestly bureeacracy than anything else...

Perhaps not at the top in terms of day to day decision making and wealth, but the first that came to mind would be celtic druids and bards.

I'd love to know more, can you point me to some sources?

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by jcul »

noodlesUK wrote: post #27

This sort of ticketing thing is a trivially solvable problem. It is solved at every airport in the entire world millions of times per day. You provide the name of each concertgoer when you buy a ticket, and they show up with their ticket and ID. You often need to show your ID at these kinds of venues to prove you're old enough to drink beer anyway.

This has its own problems. It makes it difficult to swap tickets.

A music festival I went to recently charged 30 euro to change the name on a ticket.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by mixmastamyk »

TylerE wrote: post #475
mixmastamyk wrote: post #438

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The website comes up in Safari, and is scannable from there. Don’t need to add to wallet. I used box office wifi to get text and follow url. I never asked for this BTW, would rather have a paper ticket.

The advantage to using wallet is that you don’t need working WiFi at the event. Everything you need to get in is stored locally.

I bought it at the box office and did need wifi to complete the download. I didn’t need wifi or the wallet at the gate.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ipsum2 wrote: post #500
mixmastamyk wrote: post #423

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Wonder no more—yes.

Do you work at ticketmaster? Otherwise, how do you confirm this?

Every big corp holds money longer than necessary to maximize interest. It’s free money. We know TM. “Why wouldn’t TM do it” is what you should be asking proof for.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #230
mattmaroon wrote: post #105

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One ID for the entire order would be fine. You can buy 4 tickets, and go into the concert with your 3 friends. It often works this way even with no ID involved, I buy two tickets, add them both to my wallet, scan them both when my GF and I go to the show. You COULD still scalp tickets if the person who bought them from you is going to walk in with you. But the scalper would have to eat the cost of one ticket to do it…

What if you need to arrive separately? Especially for a big event with tens of thousands of people, can be easier to meet up inside the venue on everyone’s timeline.

Then assign names to the tickets after purchase. Should be allowed up to 24 hours before the event or something.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

monksy wrote: post #122
cogman10 wrote: post #83

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So even if you don't want to do the ID thing, there are alternatives that you see all over the place (like venmo) Have a rotating QR code seeded with a unique to the user id. Then with ticket master, require a login to buy tickets. Register the tickets to the ID and then do the lookup with a combination of the ticket id, rotating qr code, and the user id. That requires the admitter device to send the challenge back t…

Disney is collecting pictures of everyone faces. That's pretty creepy.

They only collected my fingerprint last time I went.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

TylerE wrote: post #475
mixmastamyk wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The website comes up in Safari, and is scannable from there. Don’t need to add to wallet. I used box office wifi to get text and follow url. I never asked for this BTW, would rather have a paper ticket.

The advantage to using wallet is that you don’t need working WiFi at the event. Everything you need to get in is stored locally.

Webpages can work offline. Not sure if Apple has allowed this yet.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by CuriousIndian »

miki123211 wrote: post #213
mattmaroon wrote: post #105

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One ID for the entire order would be fine. You can buy 4 tickets, and go into the concert with your 3 friends. It often works this way even with no ID involved, I buy two tickets, add them both to my wallet, scan them both when my GF and I go to the show. You COULD still scalp tickets if the person who bought them from you is going to walk in with you. But the scalper would have to eat the cost of one ticket to do it…

That's how trains work (here). Every ticket must have one name and surname on it, no matter how many passengers it covers. That person must be traveling on the ticket. You're usually asked for some kind of photo anyway because of discounts, which a very significant percentage of train riders are entitled to. I think this is because tickets must be both printable and verifiable offline in case the train gets into a sp…

Thats interesting to learn.

Here, train tickets need to list every passenger along with their age and gender. This also enables you to cancel for just one person on the ticket without affecting the rest.

The ticketing system basically assumes no network connectivity. Ticket inspectors usually only ask you for your name and match it to their records. And only ask for and id in rare situations (you absolutely need to have yout id with you irrespective of infrequently you actually need to show it).

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

dfadsadsf wrote: post #476
yellowapple wrote: post #297

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Okay, but how many business flights are actually last-minute like that? Whenever I've flown for work reasons the tickets were bought at least a week in advance, and usually 3+ weeks in advance. Likewise, there are plenty of non-business flights booked last-minute like that, too - like, as a personal example, needing to book a same-night flight to help a family member drive cross-country with her kids and personal bel…

I almost always book tickets for business travel 1-3 day before the trip. I am completely price insensitive (I do not care if my employer pays $100 or $400 for the ticket), my schedule is hard to predict ahead of time (if there are no important meetings on Monday, I will fly on Monday. If something important pops up I may fly on Sunday or on Tuesday). Downside is smaller seat selection (I mitigate by always checking…

My employer does some kind of credit system so we get cash credits for future trips which we can use for nicer hotels next time. Something like that. I don't fly often/ever. I should clarify the credit is the difference of the expected price vs what we paid. So if flight is normally 300 and we pay 200 we get 100 towards future travel. And then there are upper limits to what we can expense and the credits offset that.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

chuckadams wrote: post #160
liendolucas wrote: post #147

It's baffling that you have to carry a mobile phone to access a show. What if you run out of battery? Or if you accidentally break the screen just before entering the venue? The more the technology evolves the more we find horrible uses for it. People should fight back by refraining from purchasing tickets from them, I know is not easy for people to miss their favorite artist but until a monopoly is broken there is n…

You can still print the ticket on paper. Tho nowadays that means a trip to a FedEx store for me, since I refuse to keep buying inkjets I only use a couple times a year.

Stop buying overpriced ink jets. I get knock off laser cartridges for cheap and they last a couple years each. I did have to push a few random buttons on my Brother to let me do it, but it works now
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