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Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Post by genevra »

simooooo wrote: post #491
autoexec wrote: post #483

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I don't understand how Outlook isn't a compliance nightmare. Especially since it's moved to the cloud. The amount of very sensitive data Microsoft must have on just about every single business/industry thanks to outlook and excel is insane. At one place I worked when the company replaced my old machine with a new windows 10 system it was configured to send every single keystroke back to Microsoft. There was zero conc…

What configuration setting does that?

Using Windows OS xp

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Post by TeMPOraL »

autoexec wrote: post #476
SoftTalker wrote: post #472

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Right, the pervasivenes today is much higher. But marketers/advertisers have always hoovered up and exploited as much information as was technically possible. That attitude isn't new.

Another thing that is absolutely new is the vast number of people using this data for things other than ads/marketing. The data on registration cards was never used to decide if you get a job or not, or how much you pay for a hotel room vs the next person, or how long you wait on hold when you call a customer service line, or how much your insurance rates go up, or whether or not you're a suspect in a criminal invest…

For better or worse, those use cases are at least somewhat legitimate. Marketing is purely malicious.

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Post by npteljes »

workfromspace wrote: post #138

It's sad that Microsoft (or any big company) wouldn't take a step back from such privacy intrusive or anti-user behavior unless there's a public backlash. Can't we just have a peaceful life without wasting time on constantly following and analyzing every single move from these companies?

>Can't we just have a peaceful life without wasting time on constantly following and analyzing every single move from these companies?

No, we can't. Peaceful, content, satisfied, private, conscious makes less rent than disturbed, displeased, unsatisfied, surveilled. So while some people desire the first set, some others desire the second, and so, the cat-and-mouse game continues.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Post by XlA5vEKsMISoIln »

sho_hn wrote: post #463
torstenvl wrote: post #420

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Only if major browsers are disregarding HTTP cache headers, which is a pretty major allegation. Do you have any evidence to support that?

You're assuming that all sensitive information is served with sensible cache policies. There's a lot more websites than browsers.

This doesn't make Recall any better.

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Post by WhackyIdeas »

autoexec wrote: post #479
WhackyIdeas wrote: post #459

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Totally. They just thought nobody would give a fuck. Except, people did. And now Adobe is getting it too.

Adobe figures that if MS can get away with it why can't they? Companies will just keep chipping away at our privacy every chance that they get because our data is extraordinarily valuable and we can't stay hypervigilant and outraged forever. Eventually, they'll get what they want, and then they'll push a little more.

Yes, it feels like the world is about to implode.

I don’t have any friends that care about their own security and privacy. Wanna be my friend? Lol

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Timber-6539 wrote: post #500
disqard wrote: post #474

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I'll take a shot (not at MS, so I have no inside info). GenAI is hotter than anything else right now. As Satya publicly stated, "we made them dance" -- which shows how high-priority it is to maximize "AI innovation" at MS. If you disagree, think about how badly "Tay" blew up in MS's face and yet they still went ahead and bundled OpenAI LLM tech into all of Office365, just so they could have bragging rights about beat…

You are absolutely right. This AI race has been sort of funny to watch among the big tech incumbents. Google kept on launching faked demos and hurriedly released an openly race biased image generator all in a bid to catch up with OpenAI. Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. Recently annouced a deal with OpenAI to add GPT to their devices. They seem happy to continue playing catch up in this regard. I think Met…

Note that Meta aren't trying to sell AI services to most people (with the exception of advertisers, for whom it kinda makes sense).

Much easier to avoid messing up, given this.

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Post by layer8 »

autoexec wrote: post #488
layer8 wrote: post #374

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You have to reinstall Windows and set up a local account instead of a Microsoft account. Everyone should install Windows with a local account. For Windows 11: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-witho...

I wonder how long that will work... https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-just-killed-a-local-acc...

It’s unlikely that they would completely block offline installations.

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Post by [deleted] »

consumer451 wrote: post #473
lucianbr wrote: post #469

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What's so hard to get? Security and trust are lip service. Corporations lie to make a buck. How is it not obvious? Actions speak louder than words.

The user data is just too juicy a potential profit center to pass up on. So many models to create, to theoretically replace many of us. We should assume that everyone is on their worst behavior going forward. Zoom, Slack, MS, Apple, etc.

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Post by froggit »

anakaine wrote: post #464
elevatedastalt wrote: post #358

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It's not surprising once you consider that all the big tech firms hire MBAs for their PM roles. The ideal PM profile for these companies is someone with consulting experience who just finished an MBA.

As an engineer with an MBA and in an executive level twchnokogy role, an MBA is part of what I would consider a good background. That said, OP was talking about non-technical PMs. That is the issue. You can teach a tech person to understand business, vision, strategy, finance, etc. You cannot teach very well the business person who has all that the intricacies of technology.

> ... an MBA is part of what I would consider a good background.

Emphasis on "part." I'm totally guessing on this, but I think OP may have been talking about PMs where the MBA is their only notable feature rather than those where the MBA is just one part of a well balanced whole.

> You can teach a tech person to understand business, vision, strategy, finance, etc. You cannot teach very well the business person who has all that the intricacies of technology.

I'm inclined to agree with this. The thing about business degrees is that they are so minimal effort that actually understanding business isn't a prerequisite to being awarded one. I would know, I have 2 of them.

There's no guarantee a "business person" actually learned business, much less that they are capable of learning tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm not by any means implying that all business people are inept or that they are collectively unable to learn tech; it's often unrealistic, but not impossible.

When going to school for tech, such as an MS in engineering, CS, etc., typically requires enough effort that one will end up learning their respective field (I have met exceptions to this and interacting with them is infuriating) whereas going to school for an MBA is one of the easiest ways I know of to get government financing for a decade of partying.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Post by moogly »

Too late. I've used Windows for over 30 years. Was never a "fan", it just got the work done without getting in the way. Good tool.

But now I'm moving all my computers, including work computers, to Linux. Will miss out on some hardware/software I use for music production (biggest loss will be TotalMix FX for my RME audio interface), but MSFT leadership has shown they don't get it.

Also, Fusion360 for Linux when?

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