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A 90 days exercise window is standard (and there are tax implications as well in play). OpenAI is different: they don’t grant options, but “Units” that are more like RSUs.
Don’t those come with bad tax implications then? The point of options is to give ownership without immediate financial burden for the employee.
Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees
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#502The amount [and scale] of practices, chaos and controversies caused by OpenAI since ChatGPT was released are "on par" with the powerful products it has built since.. in a negative way! These are the hottest controversial events so far , in a chronological order: OpenAI's deviation from its original mission (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34979981). The Altman's Saga (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3830961…
Why is AI so dramatic? I just watched mean girls and this is worse.
It's all just drama to draw attention and investor money, that's it.
When the inventors leave there is nothing left to do but sell more.
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Plenty of legitimate things to criticize EA for, no need to smear them by association with someone who's never claimed to be an EA and hasn't obviously behaved like one either.
To be clear I'm saying he's an effective accelerationist not an effective altruist.
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#504The amount [and scale] of practices, chaos and controversies caused by OpenAI since ChatGPT was released are "on par" with the powerful products it has built since.. in a negative way! These are the hottest controversial events so far , in a chronological order: OpenAI's deviation from its original mission (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34979981). The Altman's Saga (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3830961…
With the breakneck progress of AI over the last year, there has been a clear trend in the media of "Wow, this is amazing (and a little scary)" to "AI is an illegal dumpster fire and needs to be killed you should stop using it and companies should stop making it"
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For whatever it's worth (not much), Sam Altman did say they would do that > if any former employee who signed one of those old agreements is worried about it, they can contact me and we'll fix that too. very sorry about this. https://x.com/sama/status/1791936857594581428
What Sam is saying is very different than what I'm saying. I'm saying he should be proactive and just do it, he's saying that if people explicitly reach out to him then he'll do it specifically for them.
[1] The keywords are promissory estoppel. I'm not a lawyer but this looks at least like a borderline case worth worrying about.
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#506Looking forward for a document leak about openai using YouTube data for training their models. When asked if they use it, Murali (CTO) told she doesn't know which makes you believe that for 99% they are using it.
To be fair I don’t think Google deserves exclusive rights to contents created by others, just because they own a monopolistic video platform. However I do think it should be the content owner’s right to decide if anyone, including Google, gets to use their content for AI.
Nobody has to use youtube either.
If you want change in the video platform space, either be willing to pay a subscription or watch ads.
Consumers don't want to do either, and hence no one wants to enter the space.
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“disparagement" is whatever is defined in the agreement, which reportedly (from one of the people who declined to sign it) includes discussing the existence of the agreement.
Dear heavens, being a corporate employee is paranoia and depression-inducing. It's literally like walking into a legal minefield.
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#508I think it’s time to cancel that Chat GPT subscription and move to something else. I am tired of the arrogance of these companies and particularly their narcissistic leaders who constantly want to make themselves the centre of the piece. It’s absolutely ridiculous to run a company as if you’re the lead in a contemporary drama.
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#509I think it’s time to cancel that Chat GPT subscription and move to something else. I am tired of the arrogance of these companies and particularly their narcissistic leaders who constantly want to make themselves the centre of the piece. It’s absolutely ridiculous to run a company as if you’re the lead in a contemporary drama.
Anthropic was founded by ex OpenAI employees who were concerned with the way it was being run and their language models are comparable, better for some things but worse than others. I also canceled my ChatGPT subscription and I will say I'll miss the GTP-4o multi-modal features.
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#510Great, if these documents are credible, this is exactly what I was implying[1] yesteday. Here, listen to Altman say how he is "genuinely embarrassed": "this is on me and one of the few times i've been genuinely embarrassed running openai; i did not know this was happening and i should have." The first thing the above conjures up is the other disgraced Sam (Bankman-Fried) saying "this is on me" when FTX went bust. I b…
In the intro, Patrick goes off-script to make a joke about how last year he'd interviewed SBF, which was "clearly the wrong Sam".
I'm eagerly waiting for 2025, when he interviews some new Sam and is able to recycle the joke. :)