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Re: This is a teenager

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You have to balk when anyone says that anybody is the same person they were 24 years ago.

You have to disbelieve anyone who says they aren't a derivation of their previous person states. That's just physics.

Sounds like homeopathy more than physics.

Re: This is a teenager

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Anyone else notice how those with the most adverse experiences were both more likely to be depressed and more likely to be happy "all of the time" for the past month? Is this a flaw in the data? What is the causal explanation for this?

it’s self reported data so it’s not super reliable It could be people with more adverse experiences are less likely to take care in answering survey questions

This doesn’t make sense to me because other questions seemed to follow the trends you’d expect.

Re: This is a teenager

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The quote saying that people from 18 to 25 need a safe environment to "explore the world" and "find their purpose" seems very infantile and backward.

First off, it's not realistic at scale and presents a very sheltered worldview. Majority of worlds workforce is between those ages and no automation, nor AI will change this.

Second, even in the first world it's backward because you can also explore the world and find your purpose while working, infact working will teach you much more about the world than any college and you can always decide to get education when you're more mature and better off financially.

Re: This is a teenager

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post #404

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> Teach conflict resolution skills to young children. This is pretty huge. A lot of my experience growing up in California during the 90s was "tell an adult" and "zero tolerance" coming down from school administrators. This is useful at a very young age, but it neglects to equip the children with agency for when the adults aren't around. You can't tell an adult when you're on the school bus and conflict breaks out. Y…

What do you mean? In the adult world, you'd just call the police. In the child world, sometimes you tell the adults, but they don't do anything, and the abuse continues. That's at least my experience with bullying in primary school. "Conflict resolution" and such virtue-signalling buzzwords don't work against violent bullies .

> don't work against violent bullies.

De escalating is about dealing with angry people, especially people who aren’t usually violent.

Habitually violent bullies aren’t doing it out of anger, they’re using violence to provoke and manipulate.

Re: This is a teenager

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>Statistically most people born into poverty stay there. That simply isn't true. Look at the data on economic mobility, and the vast majority of people born in the bottom 20% leave the bottom 20%. Outcomes obviously aren't random, but are far from deterministic. For example, this article puts the number at 63% leaving the bottom 20%. 80% would require that there are no impacts whatsoever from every factor correlated…

That data is paywalled, but I've got some conflicting sources: > Rates of relative intergenerational mobility in the U.S. appear to have been flat for decades > Most Americans born in 1940 ended up better off, in real terms, than their parents at the same age. Only half of those of those born in 1980 have surpassed their parent’s family income https://www.brookings.edu/articles/raj-chetty-in-14-charts-b... Also worth…

>Only half of those of those born in 1980 have surpassed their parent’s family income

If you are talking about relative economic mobility, more than half of people cant end up in the top half by definition. Only 50 percent of people can improve in social class- and 50% of people have to go down in social class to make that happen. Of course I understand that the case is different if you are talking about nominal income. The biggest Issues there is that it is calculated using household income, and the number of adults/household has gone down quite a bit in the US. The last Issue I would point out is that these metrics rarely include transfer payments, which for the lowest quintile have gone up quite a bit.

Re: This is a teenager

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The punchline is this: "It's 2021. The research participants are in their late-30s now, which means they've had plenty of time to shape their own destinies. But we can clearly see that the experiences of their childhood had a huge effect on their financial situation as adults. It also has an effect on virtually everything else in their lives." You cannot infer the direction of causality from this data, i.e. that the…

> But then you get into why the parents are poor in the first place, and there are many causes, but a lot of them get passed down to the next generation in one way or another. Are you trying to say that these people are genetically poor?

Generational wealth is a thing...

Re: This is a teenager

#508

Sorry for the meta-commentary, but I don’t think it warrants its own post: wow the Overton window has shifted right on HN. I’ve noticed it with other comment threads but this one drives it home. Not good for discourse.

I haven't been on this platform for long, but I'm feeling it as well. Maybe it coincides with the extreme shifts that have been occurring in real life, or maybe the audience here is just more likely to be very conservative. From my subjective observations, I feel like the average HN user is older and richer than the average tech worker.

Re: This is a teenager

#509

Sorry for the meta-commentary, but I don’t think it warrants its own post: wow the Overton window has shifted right on HN. I’ve noticed it with other comment threads but this one drives it home. Not good for discourse.

Is it better for discourse if it's left?
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