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Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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We live in times were non-problems are turned into problems. Simple responses should be generated truthfully. Truth which is present in today's data. Most software engineers and CEOs are white and male, almost all US rappers are black and male, most childminder and nurses are female from all kinds of races. If you want the person to be of another race or sex, add it to the prompt. If you want a software engineer from Africa in rainbow jeans, add it to the prompt. If you want to add any characteristics that apply to a certain country, add it to the prompt. Nobody would neither expect nor want a white person when prompting about people like Martin Luther King or a black person when prompting about a police officer from China.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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All of those things happened in real life, though.

It's the most online people who don't believe these things actually happened. Go to some of the towns where these issues actually occurred and see what people think.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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It's odd that long after 70s-2000s post-modernism has been supplanted by hyper-racist activism in academia, Google finally produced a true technological engine for postmodern expression through the lens of this contemporary ideology. Imagine for a moment a Gemini that just altered the weights on a daily or hourly basis, so one hour you had it producing material from an exhumed Jim Crow ideology, the next hour you'd h…

> supplanted by hyper-racist activism in academia Can you give an example of "hyper-racist activism?"

Sure: Kendi, Ibram X.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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There's definitely human intervention in the model. Gemini is not true AI, it has too much human intervention in its results.

You're speaking as if LLMs are some naturally occurring phenomena that people are Google have tampered with. There's obviously always human intervention as AI systems are built by humans.

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Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Here's the problem for Google: Gemini pukes out a perfect visual representation of actual systemic racism that pervades throughout modern corporate culture in the US. Daily interactions can be masked by platitudes and dog whistles. A poster of non-white celtic warriors cannot. Gemini refused to create an image of "a nice white man", saying it was "too spicy", but had no problem when asked for an image of "a nice blac…

I thought you were going to say anti-white racism.

I think they did? It's definitely unclear but after looking at it for a minute I do read it as referring to racism against white people.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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You're speaking as if LLMs are some naturally occurring phenomena that people are Google have tampered with. There's obviously always human intervention as AI systems are built by humans.

Nonsense, I picked my LLM ripe off the vine today, covered in the morning dew. It was delicious.

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Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Why does google dislike white people? What does this have to do with corporate greed? (which you could always assume when a company does something bad)

Google dislikes getting bad PR. Modern western tech society will criticize (mostly correctly) a lack of diversity in basically any aspect of a company or technology. This often is expressed in shorthand as there being too many white cis men. Don't forget google's fancy doors didn't work as well for black people at once point. Lots of bad PR.

Why is a "lack of diversity" a problem? Do different races have different attributes which complement each other on a team?

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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How much of this do they do to their search results?

Google "white family" and count how many non-white families show up in the image results. 8 out of the first 32 images didn't match, for me. Now, sometimes showing you things slightly outside of your intended search window can be helpful; maybe you didn't really know what you were searching for, right? Whose to say a nudge in a certain direction is a bad thing. Extrapolate to every sensitive topic. EDIT: for complete…

It's true, if you look at Bing and Yahoo you can see the exact same behavior!

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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It's odd that long after 70s-2000s post-modernism has been supplanted by hyper-racist activism in academia, Google finally produced a true technological engine for postmodern expression through the lens of this contemporary ideology. Imagine for a moment a Gemini that just altered the weights on a daily or hourly basis, so one hour you had it producing material from an exhumed Jim Crow ideology, the next hour you'd h…

> hyper-racist activism

Is this your coinage? It's catchy.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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It was extra hilarious when asked to generate a picture of ancient Greek philosopher it made it a Native American. Because it is well known Greeks not only had contact with the new world but also had prominent population of Native Americans. It really wants to mash the whole world to a very specific US centric view of the world, and calls you bad for trying to avoid it.

Reminds me of when black people in the UK get called African American by Americans. No they're neither African nor American It's an incredibly self-centered view of the world

What is the preferred term in the UK - African British?
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