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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

How do you prefer to validate if a model is actually useful for you in practice outside of solving toy problems? Are you asking these models to solve reasoning problems like this to get any benefit for yourself in your day to day use? Or do you even care if the models are useful for day to day tasks?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#503

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini Imagine looking at all those things named Gemini and thinking "let's name our system Gemini!".

Trillion dollar companies tend to carry enough weight to make product name collisions everyone else's problem instead of theirs. Really unfortunate for the Gemini crypto exchange folks.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I just tried out Gemini advanced to see if it was a viable replacement for ChatGPT. In general I've been trying to lessen my dependence on Google, so I was already on the fence about using this. It seemed fine for most of the coding problems I threw at it. However, when I tried to use it for generating images of coloring book pages, something my kids often use ChatGPT for, Gemini advanced was subpar. I'm going to can…

They need that info. Your prompts and all other people prompts are super valuable. Its basically reading your personal thoughts as you go through the day. They will be pushing for more advanced AI as soon as our hardware can run past versions locally.

Of course, but there will be diminishing returns.

Eventually there will be a "Raspberry Pi" for LLMs. How long it will take to get there is anyone's guess, but I'd rather see it sooner than later personally.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#505

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

You believe there is a chance of won't have a million paying customers!!!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#506

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare very recently launched new models, including the excellent Openhermes. The context size sucks though. Default max (sequence) tokens (stream): 512 Default max (sequence) tokens: 256 https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models/text-gen...

Those are just defaults, not the maximum possible context size.

I see where can I read more about their max context size?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#507
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Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

I take it you didn't see the story today about how iTunes will no longer be used to play music. (tunes)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#508

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

In what sense is this a question involving "logic"?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#509

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

Naming isn't the only thing wrong. Gemini replaces Assistant on my Pixel phone. But my phone still has two different Google voice assistants, because the microphone icon on the home screen now activates "Google Voice Search" which is not Assistant or Gemini. Also, Android provides a feature to switch between voice assistants but of course it is broken in this case and can't switch between Gemini and Assistant. That has to be done in a different place. And the settings app is still full of "Assistant" settings, some of which apply to Gemini while some apply only to the now inaccessible Assistant. Unless you happen to be using Google Maps Navigation, in which case Gemini disappears and Google Assistant comes back! So there really are three different voice assistants from Google in there...

First impressions of Gemini Pro as a phone Assistant replacement are bad. It's not hands-free when triggered by the power button shortcut, apparently? When I stop talking it makes a noise like it's going to do something but it actually does nothing and I have to tap the screen to continue. After pressing the button it's quite slow to respond. I asked it to identify a plant from a picture, which Assistant/Lens can do, and it simply refused, hallucinating a long list of excuses about the poor quality of my picture, all completely false.

Overall I'm glad Google is moving this direction as it's clearly the only path forward for Assistant, which has been stagnating for many years. But the implementation so far is bad.

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