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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by johnfn »

alberth wrote: post #457
EZ-E wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investors are getting impatient! ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me and I wonder if Google starts to feel the pressure.

> "ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me" Would you mind elaborating more on this. Like how are you "searching" with ChatGPT?

I also use ChatGPT for most things I used to use Google for. Just formulate your search query as a question and type it into ChatGPT; it's not much more complicated than that. Looking over my ChatGPT history over the last week or two, I've asked it for stuff like what I should eat if I have certain fitness goals, how to improve meals, how to work out more effectively, lots of coding-related questions, which types of heating for a house are most cost-efficient, etc. For almost all those questions (minus the coding ones) I know Google will return blogspam, so I didn't even bother.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by fragmede »

w10-1 wrote: post #464
milesward wrote: post #136

This demo is nuts: https://youtu.be/UIZAiXYceBI?si=8ELqSinKHdlGlNpX

It's a very smooth demo, for demo's sake. So the killer app for AI is to replace Where's Waldo? for kids? Or perhaps that's the fun, engaging, socially-acceptable marketing application. I'm looking for the demo that shows how regular professionals can train it to do the easy parts of their jobs. That's the killer app.

Regular professionals that spend any time with text; sending emails, recieving mails, writing paragraphs of text for reports, reading reports, etc; all of that is now easier. Instead of taking thirty minutes to translate an angry email to a client where you want to say "fuck you, pay me", you can run it through an LLM and have it translated into professional business speak, and send out all of those emails before lunch, instead of spending all day writing instead. Same on the recieving side as well. Just ask an LLM to summarize the essay of an email to you in bullet points, and save yourself the time reading.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by foobar_______ »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?!

That's your response? Ouch.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by ghaff »

TheFattestNinja wrote: post #296
ghaff wrote: post #286

This is hilarious for anyone who knows the area: "The best way to get from Lake of the Clouds Hut to Madison Springs Hut in the White Mountains is to hike along the Mt. Washington Auto Road. The distance is 3.7 miles and it should take about 16 minutes." What it looks like it's doing is actually giving you the driving directions from the nearest road point to one hut to the nearest road point to the other hut. An ear…

I mean even without knowing the area if you are hiking (which implies you are walking) 3.7 miles in 16 m then you are the apex predator of the world my friend. That's 20/25 km/h

It seems to not know that hiking=walking. Although it references Google Maps for its essentially driving directions, Google Maps itself gives reasonable walking directions. (The time is still pretty silly for most people given the terrain but I don't reasonably expect Google Maps to know that.)

(Yep. If you then tell it hiking is walking it gives you a reasonable response. It used to give you weird combinations of trails in the general area even when you tried to correct it. Now, with Google Maps info, it was confused about the mode of transit but if you cleared that up, it was correct.)

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

bogwog wrote: post #499
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer" This dude needs a new speech writer.

This dude needs a new speech writer.

How about we go further and just state what everyone (other than Wall St) thinks: Google needs a new CEO.

One more interested in Google's supposed mission ("to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful"), than in Google's stock price.

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Post by passion__desire »

vijaybritto wrote: post #382

I tried to do some straightforward code conversions using Bard and it flat out refuses to write any code and instead only explains what to do. Whereas GPT gives code as much as it can although it struggles to complete the full conversion. (Keeps forgetting the instructions)

ask it to summarize an article like this one. It straight up refuses. I gave the link. It refuses. I gave the text, it says "I am only LLM. I can't do that Dave"

https://craffel.github.io/blog/language-model-development-as...

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by modeless »

Watching a demo video, and of course it makes a plausible but factually incorrect statement that likely wasn't even noticed by the editors, within the first two minutes. Talking about a blue rubber duck it says it floats because "it's made of a material that is less dense than water". False, the material of rubber ducks is more dense than water. It floats because it contains air.

If I was going to release a highly produced marketing demo video to impress people I would definitely make sure that it doesn't contain subtle factual errors that aren't called out at all...

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by digitcatphd »

Im a little disappointed to be honest, the improvement to GPT-4 is not as steep as I had anticipated, not enough to entice me to switch models in production.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by [deleted] »

dontupvoteme wrote: post #452
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

He's not wrong. DeepMind spends time solving big scientific / large-scale problems such as those in genetics, material science or weather forecasting, and Google has untouchable resources such as all the books they've scanned (and already won court cases about) They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard. There is far more to technology than public facing goods/products. It's probably in part due to the cultura…

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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by stainablesteel »

of all the problems i have that chatgpt has been unable to solve, bard is still not able to solve them either

no improvement that i see, still glad to see this do some other really neat things

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