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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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I was lucky enough to get early access to the Pi5[1]. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. [1] Youtube Video on the RPi 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_QPM9xV_sw

Could you please run the Geekbench 6 [1] benchmark and report the results? [1]: https://cdn.geekbench.com/Geekbench-6.2.0-LinuxARMPreview.ta...

See: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/21

748 single / 1507 multi

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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You won't have to. They can all be stacked.

Would active cooling work underneath another hat?

It looks like the M2 socket will be connected with a flexible ribbon, so it is possible that it could be mounted below.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.

That's true as long as you don't mind using modified vendor supplied operating systems. Most of these advanced boards will lock you into some patched Ubuntu version. So far from the ones I've worked only the Pi and a patched Rockpro64 allows you to boot some generic USB installer from UEFI and have the system your way with mainline kernel support.

He's talking about off the shelf PCs, not Arm based SBCs with a wonky software stack.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Hi, I've been testing the RPi5 for a few weeks and have written up my results and benchmarks on Twitter. https://x.com/alexellisuk/status/1707296079849365650?s=20 This is so much quicker for clusters, servers and headless use, that I don't think I'd consider buying any more RPi4s myself.

Are those results available anywhere else?

I've posted separately some test data: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/21

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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I'd like to see an RPi that includes an Arduino (or maybe an ESP32) on board, with some way to easily connect things to that Arduino's GPIO pins, and with the Arduino programmable and controllable from the RPi.

This would let you run things that need real time GPIO access and real time interrupt handlings on the Arduino, and would also give you DAC and ADC.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Jeff Geerling measured 1.8W idle power draw. Based on my experience with previous Pis, I bet you’ll be able to drop that even further by turning off unused board components at boot time.

True, I've gotten Pi 4s pretty low (< 1W), disabling the LEDs, Ethernet, HDMI, and USB controller, but it's never gonna equal a proper suspend.

1W is honestly not that great, though. A smartphone will do 10x that out of the box, and still pling for Facebook notifications.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#507

Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.

Interesting. Do you have any links for mini PCs like that?

Look for Servethehome's Tiny Mini Micro content.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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That's true as long as you don't mind using modified vendor supplied operating systems. Most of these advanced boards will lock you into some patched Ubuntu version. So far from the ones I've worked only the Pi and a patched Rockpro64 allows you to boot some generic USB installer from UEFI and have the system your way with mainline kernel support.

I didn't see any mention of UEFI in my first read through about the Pi 5. Did I just miss it? I would like to have a quiet and reasonably performant ARM aarch64 box at this price point, but only if it supports UEFI without needing to resort to silly EFI system partition tricks (which the Pi 4 required, last I knew).

One of the differences in the Raspberry Pi 5 is the bootloader is in EEPROM. It has 2MiBytes which they doubt would be enough to fit a UEFI implementation. So it sounds to me like there isn’t much chance of UEFI this time.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.

Interesting. Do you have any links for mini PCs like that?

Current Gen Intel are M100… N200 and N305 ... search for that plus mini PC. Older gens will have less expensive models around.

I used several while rpi supplies slowed and scalping had prices where it was the better option. Around $200-250 USD or so. But comes with memory, storage, case and power supply.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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This happened a lot sooner than I would have guessed! I thought the 4 was gonna get milked for many more years. It'll still be around no doubt but the speed bump is appreciated.

Interesting to see the emergence of a southbridge chip in SBC land. RPI4 using a Via USB3 controller and a dedicated Broadcom ethernet chip is somewhat against the grain of most embedded chips, which tend to have all this io on package. Here Broadcom now has a single chip that bundles a bunch of the io needs together, and takes back the business from Via, which is a tailored step forward to combine functions. But it's still a secondary chip, which is fairly unusual.

On the upside, it means less pins on the main core. And it physically helps fan out the io, can be placed closer to io connectors. I went looking for a chip identification for RPI4, but didn't find it; I'm curious whether old chips had discrete PHY or whether they were builtin, and what the situation is with the new southbridge.

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