I feel like this is an epic joke. Except the joke is on all the suckers paying $1k for essentially the same phone, but wow, now with a usb-c port. Please Tim Apple...take my money faster. Even better, please strap it to my head so I can be even more disconnected from other people.
iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
#502Still no TouchID. Boooo!
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#503I miss Jobs. These prerecorded presentations are soulless and almost embarrassing at times. Happy to see USB-C on the iPhone (thanks EU) and no price hikes.
They are so CRINGEY. That Mother Nature thing, wow.
Mother Nature didn’t mention replaceable batteries even once, they must have beaten her up so badly that she holds her tongue in front of Tim now.
Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
#504The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…
Nothing wrong with that, it's a mature platform. Features for features sake isn't very interesting either. Besides maybe the price I'm happy with small refinements, as I dont need a new phone every year, my iPhone 14 Pro is 100% as useful as it was last year and is extremely rugged, I'm sure it will last another year+ absent a bad accident.
A slightly faster CPU+slightly better battery+slightly better screen(?)+better camera is all I really care about.
Not like any of us are having performance issues with the last few models for 99%+ of use-cases. Software is extremely stable too.
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#505> USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables Bought a Motorola G6 in 2018 for €199. It takes "fantastic" photos, and came in a "stunning new" (!?) color of black(ish). It's pretty much indestructible, runs Firefox with uBlock Origin, and it's "better for the environment" because every year you don't buy a new phone, the environment is happy. It also has USB-C, and a 3.5 jack.
> and it's "better for the environment" because every year you don't buy a new phone, the environment is happy. This seems wrong. I am still on an iPhone Xs Max from 2018 and it still gets software updates. It looks like the last software update on the G6 was in 2020. The lack of even security patches limits the life of the phone for many people. The primary reason I'll eventually need to upgrade is because of 5G sup…
The older iPhones still hold resale value pretty well too, which means most iPhones have a second life as a "cheap" option. Combined with the software updates you mentioned, that's pretty good for the environment. The best case scenario is most iPhones get to be used by multiple people and new iPhones contain a lot of recycled material. That's not too far from reality.
The problem with tech is nothing is ever "good enough." Sure, you could make a phone that is durable for 10 years... but someone will invent new battery chemistry, CPUs will get considerably more powerful/efficient, and Sony will come along with even better camera sensors.
So it's really not possible for that high-end "old" phone to keep up after a few years. That's true for most consumer tech, even if the pace is slowing down somewhat. An expensive LED TV from 2013 will not compare favorably with a good value mid-range one today.
We can either stop innovating, which is also bad for the environment (technology improvements allow for vast efficiency and energy-use improvements in a huge range of products), or we can make sure things have a lot of re-use value. That can be done through the used market with good repairability and software support, and by making sure phones can be recycled and also use a lot of recycled materials.
Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
#506The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…
its not that they're running out of ideas. It's just as good as it can ever get, period. I mean the paper clip came out 100 years ago and you don't see 15 versions of that. Every device reaches a point after which it's way more than good enough.
personally, I'd only like to see them get cheaper and maybe longer product life ( i hate replacing everything after just 7 or 8 years).
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#507I hate the non-live presentations. Just hate them.
Who thought adding all the filters and special effects was cool?
It just makes it feel cheap. And my god, the people talking don't sound like people at all.
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#508There sure are a lot of comments here about USB2. I can’t imagine anyone actually giving a shit about it though. Wifi, Bluetooth, airdrop, etc. are all perfectly fine. What are you people plugging your phone in for other than just charging?
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#509It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…
The cost of inputs has gone down. What has happened to the cost of storage and RAM (both commodities, I assume) over the last several years? They're still shipping "Pro" iPhones — that cost as much as a computer — with 128GB. That's one way to keep costs down, and to goose the demand for Apple's iCloud backup service.
Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
#510The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…
Let's hope more companies to run out of ideas and put the focus on environmental impact.