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Post by rglullis »

tayo42 wrote: post #431
rglullis wrote: post #199

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That was his excuse , there are some alternative theories that say that he put the rate limits only to cut his AWS bills. Anyway, it should be known that fighting against scrapers is a lost cause. Nitter is still going strong, BirdSiteLive (the software that powers bird.makeup) as well, and even if he really blocked these alternative methods, I wouldn't be surprised if the archive.org people came up with some browser…

Twitter doesn't use aws for anything important... Lol people's just say anything online

Replace AWS with whatever cloud provider they use...

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Post by tourmalinetaco »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #478
aydyn wrote: post #462

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"It's the user experience" haha Yeah you couldn't do it by whatsapp, but you could do it with discord, slack, teams, skype and a bunch of other services that you failed to mention to create a strawman. That you get so defensive is really, and I mean REALLY, telling of the real reason.

You couldn’t create anything resembling the Instagram experience on any of those services, let alone using some of your other suggestion like email. If the only thing you think a substitute service requires is a way to send images, then you could replace Instagram with the postal service by that standard. The most absurd part of this argument is that discord, WhatsApp, messenger, etc… are all also social media platfo…

Discord is a social media platform. And you absolutely could. I’ve been in quite a few servers where channels were used as a dumping ground for whatever people were doing at a time and felt like showing off. It’s an extreme example, but one that works because ultimately Instagram’s ability to display this information is no different than anything else’s. You simply believe Instagram is some perfect solution that cannot be replicated and refuse to understand the basic definition of a social network.

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Post by xbmcuser »

dahwolf wrote: post #315

It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

Twitter might not be as important to the US as it is to a lot of other countries. A lot of content that is censored or blocked in countries by restrictive regimes rises on twitter organically. I think it plays a big role in dissemination of information from reporters etc. Take Pakistan for instance currently all the private channels are completely controlled by government it under quasi martial law. But because of twitter people are aware of 1000s of political prisoners including women and children, disappearances of reporters, harassment and threats by law enforcement to protestor families and relatives to control the protestors.

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Post by thomashop »

thomashop wrote: post #482
ggm wrote: post #480

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Perhaps I have a weak line of argument. It does cause widespread harm, if not to you certainly to others. At root it shouldn't matter. But, it seems it does. It's like dope. Why all the furore when mature reasonable adults can self police their use and avoid trouble? It's everyone else, who overdo it, who become lost in psychosis, who turn to crime. Sure, decriminalise it. But... look how the Dutch are saying it's fa…

Would you eg say teenage girls are not at risk? That people with mental health issues are not at risk? Not that it defines it as "ban it now" but "where's the harm" seems disinegenuous. There's harm. How much, what remediates, unclear. For me, it's avoid. You differ. Every piece of information that is transmitted between humans carries the risk of harming someone. I genuinely believe that society at large is better d…

but upon rereading i sound too extreme. i definitely agree we should try to reduce risks through regulation but thats already happening

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Post by Eisenstein »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #492
deaddodo wrote: post #450

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Their point is that social media is an abstract concept that correlates with it's use; not the platform it's used on. What Kim Kardashian (as an extreme example) posts on Instagram/Twitter/etc is social media, because it's media broadcast out to be shared and commented on. Having an Instagram account and messaging your friends is not social media, it's a social network using the same aforementioned platform. In other…

We all produce content that we publish on the social media site platform (posts, stories, reels. Text posts now too if you count Threads…). This is quintessential social media content, and was the primary way that social media platforms were used in their early years. My content with a couple dozen likes isn’t somehow not-social-media-content just because my audience is limited to my actual social circle. The point t…

Since you admittedly have no understanding of what people are talking about when they refer to social media being toxic then you must not be in sync with the definition of social media that others have. Regardless of whether it makes sense to you, it makes sense to a lot of other people. It would be nice if you weren't so incredibly defensive about your need to express your conception of an idea so that you could try and understand what other people think as well.

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Post by [deleted] »

Dalewyn wrote: post #479
bombolo wrote: post #436

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journalists use twitter and love to pretend that everybody else does too, and pass a few tweets as "the people have spoken" all the time.

In the eyes of NHK (the Japanese broadcaster), Twitter is internet and internet is Twitter. Every single time they say "Let's see what people on the internet are saying.", the scene always changes over to tweets and tweets and tweets. Journalism is beyond redemption.

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Post by tiznow »

bruce511 wrote: post #434
dahwolf wrote: post #315

It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

There are a lot of news articles about Twitter because journalists use twitter, and have come to depend on it to boost their readership. Just this week there was an article on HN front page about journalism school requiring twitter accounts, and pushing journalists to build "their own brand" by getting lots of followers. These journalists hate the changes in twitter, and dont want it to go away. Hence the endless art…

Journalists aren't the biggest user base, just the most prominent and the people who "need" Twitter (or something like it) the most in our society.

This is one of the reasons I left that field.

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

AviationAtom wrote: post #363
dahwolf wrote: post #315

It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

I'd say I'm surprised by the persistent pessimism regarding Twitter, but I'm not. I don't think a sizable portion of people are even willing to entertain the idea that it might still having a place in the Internet ecosystem. Maybe not in exactly the same form as pre-Elon Twitter, but still a place.

Musk is using the For You feature to promote propaganda he approves of. My For You feed is full of paid climate change deniers, racists, mainstream far-right troll "journalists", and other people of questionable social value.

It's absolutely an example of political editorialising and narrative control.

And Musk now has a history of enabling criminal behaviour. https://gizmodo.com/twitter-dom-lucre-ban-elon-musk-child-ex...

So - yes, maybe it will continue in some form. But when progressive content is being deboosted it's not going to be the platform it used to be.

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Post by kelipso »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #486
matheusmoreira wrote: post #439

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> Journalists are typically the ones bringing any sort of credibility to topics. Not at all. "Journalists" are as biased as they come. They'll sing any tune prescribed by the hand that feeds them. That hand is most often advertisers but may also be governments. Chances are the articles they produce are actually hidden advertisements or propaganda. How could anyone with such massive conflicts of interest bring credibi…

> What makes you think these "journalists" aren't just randoms themselves? They're not really any better than any person on this site. It's pretty ridiculous to compare someone who has a university degree, years of training and experience, professional qualifications, and maybe a strong reputation, with a "random" posting on an internet forum.

The journalists reporting on a pair of alien hands someone discovered in their backyard and other tabloid pieces have similar credentials too.
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