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I’m calling it, network effects are very hard to overcome. Users with thousands of follows will have to wait a loooong time to have Threads side to catch up. In the mean time they will absolutely use Twitter along with Threads and the one likely getting abandoned is Threads. New users will find empty content, mostly discussions that are already on twitter but at a small scale and reach

just need a "follow who you followed on twitter" feature

API fees will be high on that order?

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I think Facebook/Instagrams very "PC-model" of moderation will allow for Twitter to coexist with them. There's a tangible difference in Twitter now that Musk took over. Raunchy, sometimes offensive jokes are now actually possible on the site. I use Twitter a lot more than I ever did because of it. I don't want Instagram 2.0 with nothing but "models" and stolen videos.

There have been raunchy, offensive jokes on Twitter for years. Nothing new there. What kind of kneeslappers have you found more of recently?

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Will they win the journalist contingent? Twitter won mostly on news. Facebook has celebrity influencers but that is a different demographic. People are not interchangeable. Eg Journalists would make a very dull Instagram.

I want to see a social media site poach key users onto their platforms. NBA Twitter (over a million people easily) would switch overnight if Shams Charania and Adrian Wojnarowski suddenly switched platforms. I think with the right UI/UX, Threads could do it. But we'll see.

Live streaming platforms poach all the time.

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I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

> I'm calling it now

This has become the indicator of hubris, the red flag that indicates the rest should be taken, at best, with a very large pinch of salt.

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When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

Facebook should make a LinkedIn copy. LI has taken the majority of the feed eyeball time.

LI must have more DAU/MAU than Twitter - most people are just scrolling the LI feed, adding random people to their network (better than adding "friends" on FB), posting/re-sharing longer text+image content.

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Wow, the stars aligned and shined on Mark Zuckerberg. What a lucky break.

Mark my words, the Meta revival story starts now thanks to Twitter and Reddit killing themselves.

I think Meta will realize that it is best to stick with what they are good at: Building profitable apps via social interactions.

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

> The absurd levels of pornography

Incidentally, that is also the case on Bluesky and one reason I would not dare to invite anybody on there until they address it.

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Cannot believe that they have a second stand-alone IG spinoff app, and they ALSO called it Threads[0]. [0]. https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/17/instagram-will-shut-down-i...

That's really cool. Someone from that project must've been really attached to the name.

It's interesting that Facebook/Instagram keeps launching new apps to identify new usecases. Most of them rarely gets heard of, but perhaps they gain a lot of insight even when they shut down.

On the flip side, I hope it's not like Google where services are launched to die soon for the sake of enhancing a promo package.

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I feel like Twitter could have launched “Nests” (flocks?) to replace subreddits in the face of a Reddit exodus and pretty much just reskinned twitter for the specific use case. Hashtags as top level organizing taxonomy (to replace subreddit). Then tweets as your “posts” with nested replies. Twitter had the infrastructure to just hit the ground running too.

They are rate limiting the viewing of tweets now. No way they have the capacity to handle Reddit’s content. Maybe Google can try replicating Reddit in YouTube - it would just be serving text instead of video; discovery would be via their recommendation algorithm, i.e. no subreddits. Frankly, they can kind of already do this, you can post community messages on YouTube. They just need to tweak the algorithm to recommen…

> Maybe Google can try replicating Reddit in YouTube

They can't. Google as an organization just doesn't understand social networking.

They've had comments and forums (community?) for ages. Do you know how to engage in that community? Do you know how to even track your own comments? Etc.

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I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

The key thing for me is whether it's really a text focused app or they ruin it by trying to cross promote Instagram/Reels and turn it into a mindless time suck. If they get the little details right, I see this as the only real competition to Twitter right now. After trying Mastodon for a few months, it's certainly not it.

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